Two LS1s race
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From: Monmouth, IL
RE: Two LS1s race
ORIGINAL: MACH5IVE
Sorry if i hurt your feelings "projectquick"! And who said anything about "stock" ls1's!? Not once in any of my posts have i mentioned a stock ls1. One thing you'll learn in this game is that its easy to say yeah, im gonna get this and getthat and put this and put that and kill this and killthat, but untill you have something on paper all that means nothing butdiddly squat! I have several friends who happen to own ls1's and every single one of them has eithersnapped something in the rearend, or had their trannies rebuilt2 or 3 times, etc etc.. I'd rather pony up the 10 grand and take half the miles, and none of the rattles, or pains that come with a 5-7 year old car. Code hit it right on the nail when he said "You gotta pay, to play!"..
In all honesty guys, just go with what you want and dont be upset when you get a lil criticism or brand loyalty![8D]
ORIGINAL: Projectquick
I am just saying that I have never seen personally that the LS1 can be that fast with nothing really done to it. pandaj, as far as it being an eye opening experiance it was. mach5ive, with what you have done to your car if you can;t beat a stock LS1 you should kill yourself. I really wanted the Mach 1 but apparently you guys are missing the point, for less than half the cost of a stock Mach 1 I could have an f-body with the same mods that guy had and then hand you your *** when I use some of the 10-12 grand I saved buying that car to buy heads and a cam. I was only stating how I have never seen in person the beast-ness of an LS1 with only BASIC bolt-ons.
I am just saying that I have never seen personally that the LS1 can be that fast with nothing really done to it. pandaj, as far as it being an eye opening experiance it was. mach5ive, with what you have done to your car if you can;t beat a stock LS1 you should kill yourself. I really wanted the Mach 1 but apparently you guys are missing the point, for less than half the cost of a stock Mach 1 I could have an f-body with the same mods that guy had and then hand you your *** when I use some of the 10-12 grand I saved buying that car to buy heads and a cam. I was only stating how I have never seen in person the beast-ness of an LS1 with only BASIC bolt-ons.
In all honesty guys, just go with what you want and dont be upset when you get a lil criticism or brand loyalty![8D]
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From: NC
RE: Two LS1s race
ORIGINAL: MACH5IVE
Just about every ls1 i've seen had 50k+ and an ls1 for 5-6k, im willing to bet has atleast twice, if not more, as many miles as my mach. And im sorry if im a little biased, being a mustang owner on a mustang forum!
ORIGINAL: S8ER01Z
Been over this a million times...but way to stay unbiased in this situation.
BTW you can pick up an LS1 for 5~6K if you look hard enough...last time I looked it will be a LONG time before Machs come down enough in price for your statement to be valid. It's a rare car compared to the number of LS1 powered F-Bodys made total.
ORIGINAL: MACH5IVE
Well you go ahead and get an ls1, but dont go crying when you start seeing mach's that'll give you a run for your money with 1/3 of the miles, and 10x the sex appeal... Ls1's are fast, but you'd think that with that large of a displacement difference they'd be able to put quite a bit more distance on me!
Well you go ahead and get an ls1, but dont go crying when you start seeing mach's that'll give you a run for your money with 1/3 of the miles, and 10x the sex appeal... Ls1's are fast, but you'd think that with that large of a displacement difference they'd be able to put quite a bit more distance on me!
BTW you can pick up an LS1 for 5~6K if you look hard enough...last time I looked it will be a LONG time before Machs come down enough in price for your statement to be valid. It's a rare car compared to the number of LS1 powered F-Bodys made total.
BTW... I know of MANY people over 100K that would easily hand you your *** on any given day..since when does the mileage matter? You one of those guys who drives the car 10 miles a year so it might be worth something someday?? Fact is a Mach1 and LS1 car with equal miles will result in the LS1 being the cheaper car. Mach 1s are hard to find vs an LS1 car... simple matter of supply and demand there.
You have adult ADD? Your post are all over the damn place. Good job though...keep pounding out a million ideas per post and you might get me with one!
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From: NC
RE: Two LS1s race
ORIGINAL: tspence45
And as for getting an LS1 for $5-$6k, good luck. It's going to have problems for that cheap. I have found some decent ones for around $7-$8k with around 80-100k miles on LS1tech.
And as for getting an LS1 for $5-$6k, good luck. It's going to have problems for that cheap. I have found some decent ones for around $7-$8k with around 80-100k miles on LS1tech.
I've seen SS/WS6 cars still selling for 20K+ because people think they are actually going to get that kind of money for a car worth 16K at best....
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RE: Two LS1s race
ORIGINAL: MACH5IVE
Well you go ahead and getan ls1, but dontgo cryingwhen you start seeing mach's that'll give you a run for your money with 1/3 of the miles, and 10x the sex appeal... Ls1's are fast, but you'd think that withthat large of a displacement difference they'd be able to put quite a bit more distance on me!
Well you go ahead and getan ls1, but dontgo cryingwhen you start seeing mach's that'll give you a run for your money with 1/3 of the miles, and 10x the sex appeal... Ls1's are fast, but you'd think that withthat large of a displacement difference they'd be able to put quite a bit more distance on me!
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Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,445
From: Jersey
RE: Two LS1s race
ORIGINAL: MACH5IVE
Sorry if i hurt your feelings "projectquick"! And who said anything about "stock" ls1's!? Not once in any of my posts have i mentioned a stock ls1. One thing you'll learn in this game is that its easy to say yeah, im gonna get this and getthat and put this and put that and kill this and killthat, but untill you have something on paper all that means nothing butdiddly squat! I have several friends who happen to own ls1's and every single one of them has eithersnapped something in the rearend, or had their trannies rebuilt2 or 3 times, etc etc.. I'd rather pony up the 10 grand and take half the miles, and none of the rattles, or pains that come with a 5-7 year old car. Code hit it right on the nail when he said "You gotta pay, to play!"..
ORIGINAL: Projectquick
I am just saying that I have never seen personally that the LS1 can be that fast with nothing really done to it. pandaj, as far as it being an eye opening experiance it was. mach5ive, with what you have done to your car if you can;t beat a stock LS1 you should kill yourself. I really wanted the Mach 1 but apparently you guys are missing the point, for less than half the cost of a stock Mach 1 I could have an f-body with the same mods that guy had and then hand you your *** when I use some of the 10-12 grand I saved buying that car to buy heads and a cam. I was only stating how I have never seen in person the beast-ness of an LS1 with only BASIC bolt-ons.
I am just saying that I have never seen personally that the LS1 can be that fast with nothing really done to it. pandaj, as far as it being an eye opening experiance it was. mach5ive, with what you have done to your car if you can;t beat a stock LS1 you should kill yourself. I really wanted the Mach 1 but apparently you guys are missing the point, for less than half the cost of a stock Mach 1 I could have an f-body with the same mods that guy had and then hand you your *** when I use some of the 10-12 grand I saved buying that car to buy heads and a cam. I was only stating how I have never seen in person the beast-ness of an LS1 with only BASIC bolt-ons.
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From: Monmouth, IL
RE: Two LS1s race
ORIGINAL: 94GT300
Evidentally u have never seen a WS6, u put a mach and a ws6 beside eich other and see which one the girls gather around...and as for shakes and rattles on on high milage cars, my cousin just bought a bone stock 2001 WS6 with 21000 miles for 18k, and its in brand new shape and i mean brand new the leater seats dont even have lines in it no shakes no rattles, he pulled me in my 1995 170k mile lt1 by 1/2 car by 110 thanx to me getting squirrley in 2nd gear pretty bad but thats beside the point...and ive straight up ate a mach 1 before my 3 cars...
ORIGINAL: MACH5IVE
Well you go ahead and getan ls1, but dontgo cryingwhen you start seeing mach's that'll give you a run for your money with 1/3 of the miles, and 10x the sex appeal... Ls1's are fast, but you'd think that withthat large of a displacement difference they'd be able to put quite a bit more distance on me!
Well you go ahead and getan ls1, but dontgo cryingwhen you start seeing mach's that'll give you a run for your money with 1/3 of the miles, and 10x the sex appeal... Ls1's are fast, but you'd think that withthat large of a displacement difference they'd be able to put quite a bit more distance on me!
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From: Jersey
RE: Two LS1s race
ORIGINAL: MACH5IVE
Well you go ahead and getan ls1, but dontgo cryingwhen you start seeing mach's that'll give you a run for your money with 1/3 of the miles, and 10x the sex appeal... Ls1's are fast, but you'd think that withthat large of a displacement difference they'd be able to put quite a bit more distance on me!
Well you go ahead and getan ls1, but dontgo cryingwhen you start seeing mach's that'll give you a run for your money with 1/3 of the miles, and 10x the sex appeal... Ls1's are fast, but you'd think that withthat large of a displacement difference they'd be able to put quite a bit more distance on me!
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From: St. Louis
RE: Two LS1s race
Project, just swapping the heads won't get you to 400 rwhp, although swapping the cam might if it is an aggressive grind. Of course the powerband would be much more peaky. Swapping the heads in addition to the cam would bring not only more peak power but a flatter power curve.
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From: Jersey
RE: Two LS1s race
I was just throwing numbers out there, but a set of heads and a cam for a pushrod v8, even the LS1, is about half the cost of heads for a 2v SOHC 4.6 liter. If you want to throw some cash at those LS1 the are monsters. Look at your times with practically nothing done to the car, imagine engine work or a set of steeper gears.
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From: St. Louis
RE: Two LS1s race
Heads, cam and full bolt-ons can get an LS1 F-body into the 10s. The tranny, suspension and rear end need to be upgraded at that point though, and that is $$$.
EDIT: Almost forgot, to run at the track you would need a ton of safety crap too. More $$$.
EDIT: Almost forgot, to run at the track you would need a ton of safety crap too. More $$$.