Evo X
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ORIGINAL: S8ER01Z
Hey EVO owners are the ones putting themselves out there as stoplight warriors and they do a damn good job of taking down most cars... a few tenths lost in the 1/4 is a loss of bragging rights for the ones that don't actually race their cars on a track (99% of them).
Hey EVO owners are the ones putting themselves out there as stoplight warriors and they do a damn good job of taking down most cars... a few tenths lost in the 1/4 is a loss of bragging rights for the ones that don't actually race their cars on a track (99% of them).
theres always a group that makes the rest look stupid.
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I understand that the point of the Evo is different in its other markets.
But this is America. And as you said, the American version has to cater to Americans.
Who, even when buying the Evo are using it as a drag vehicle in many instances. Again, because we are not blessed/cursed with twisty mountain roads in our commutes (most of us).
Therefore, when Mitsubishi designed the American spec Evo, losing some performance in the straight line is not a good thing for the American market.
When I design product, it has to meet or surpass the previous generation in every way. This is typically what successful products do.
One of the best reads in automotive product development is "All Corvettes are Red", documenting the development of the C5. They struggled to make sure that no aspect of that car was worse than the C4. Its mission statement was to do everything at least as good -- if not better than its predecessor.
And in that respect, the new Evo (if the numbers are true) does not meet a typical product development goal. Nor for that matter does the new Caliber SRT-4 (I had the original, miss it). It's a shame.
I understand that the point of the Evo is different in its other markets.
But this is America. And as you said, the American version has to cater to Americans.
Who, even when buying the Evo are using it as a drag vehicle in many instances. Again, because we are not blessed/cursed with twisty mountain roads in our commutes (most of us).
Therefore, when Mitsubishi designed the American spec Evo, losing some performance in the straight line is not a good thing for the American market.
When I design product, it has to meet or surpass the previous generation in every way. This is typically what successful products do.
One of the best reads in automotive product development is "All Corvettes are Red", documenting the development of the C5. They struggled to make sure that no aspect of that car was worse than the C4. Its mission statement was to do everything at least as good -- if not better than its predecessor.
And in that respect, the new Evo (if the numbers are true) does not meet a typical product development goal. Nor for that matter does the new Caliber SRT-4 (I had the original, miss it). It's a shame.
the evo has its purpose in the world, whether the f&f retards think its the ultimate everything mobile or not. the car is made more practical, which will sell more. if mustang owners truly pushed for the stang to be better, we wouldnt have the interior we have, with the color changing gauges...
its all in marketing, and im sure they have seen their own market trends, and probubly know more then we do. america is not about the 1/4 or the twisties... its about eating a McD's hamburger while talking on the cell phone in your nice comfy whatevermobile, blasting your music. im surprised the EVO isnt auto like the vettes.
if i wanted to buy an evo, it would be for turning/rally desires, and a if it went a tad slower, for it do be better at its purpose, then so be it. ive seen small miata's with 1/3 the power of a mustang, own it in autoX.
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I bet you any money the car is faster in the countries that get the 6 speed manual box. But because its America they had to put in that flappy paddle effort because it appears half the people if not more out there can't drive a manual.
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I know 4 or 5 Evo owners and not a single one them has taken it to a road course all of them have been to the dragstrip. The strip and the roadcourse are about the same distance away.
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ORIGINAL: sw07gt
I know 4 or 5 Evo owners and not a single one them has taken it to a road course all of them have been to the dragstrip. The strip and the roadcourse are about the same distance away.
I know 4 or 5 Evo owners and not a single one them has taken it to a road course all of them have been to the dragstrip. The strip and the roadcourse are about the same distance away.
The more I hear about it the more I think it is lack of "talent" or ability in the corners to drive there cars. Give it to someone in Europe and they will drive the hell out of the car I guarantee it. And that's just hitting normal roads. I have my cars **** end skipping about during a good country road blast and I barely push the car.
The EVO / STI ares suited more to European and Japanese roads they only bring them tot he US because it is the largest market and they can get some more sales.
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