CALLIN OUT 01Snake
ORIGINAL: OneFastEclipse
I tell you what you seem to know. You seem to know how to listen to a bunch of kids on the internet. Everyone one of your so called proof is someone "saying" they made it. I don't buy it. Again, I never said it was impossible. I said it was very uncommon. Which it is. You can argue it all you want, post more comments from other fan boys saying "This guy told my friend that if I bolt on this this and this, I'll have 300whp", it still don't change the fact that very few 2v 4.6's are 300+whp N/A.
There are two main dyno's right where I live. Akron Horsepower and Big Shot dyno. Both of them have web sites, both are VERY well known when it comes to stangs. They both specialize in them. I have seen the same results at both places. Many 2V's made some good power, well over 300 to the tire, but all of them had boost or spray. Simple enough.
I tell you what you seem to know. You seem to know how to listen to a bunch of kids on the internet. Everyone one of your so called proof is someone "saying" they made it. I don't buy it. Again, I never said it was impossible. I said it was very uncommon. Which it is. You can argue it all you want, post more comments from other fan boys saying "This guy told my friend that if I bolt on this this and this, I'll have 300whp", it still don't change the fact that very few 2v 4.6's are 300+whp N/A.
There are two main dyno's right where I live. Akron Horsepower and Big Shot dyno. Both of them have web sites, both are VERY well known when it comes to stangs. They both specialize in them. I have seen the same results at both places. Many 2V's made some good power, well over 300 to the tire, but all of them had boost or spray. Simple enough.
Do you mean to say the 4.6 Tech section here blows?
Everyone of my proofs is someone "saying" they made it? So each one was just a simple lie just because there was no proof of a dyno sheet? Did you even look at the link posted about Alternative Auto reaching 290rwhp with full bolt on's and a cam, no heads?
There are few 2V 4.6s N/As that reach 300rwhp, but the whole discussion was based off of whether a full bolt on + H/C/I New Edge GT would fall within 300rwhp-320rwhp. I still stand and think that it is very damn likely, all you have done to prove me wrong was post two videos that were weak and say that you've been to a dyno a few times.
And you have posted nothing but what people have said. Again, for the 50th time, I never said it was not possible, I said it is very uncommon! I posted some videos of some heavily bolt-on New Edges to try and make you happy. I can keep searching all night and find more and more of them. They are everywhere. I could probably post 50+ videos of N/A new edge 2v's making less then 300whp and probably can only find 2 or 3 of them making more then 300.
I don't believe the 4.6 tech section is bad, but I don't believe anything that anyone has to say on the internet without a bit of proof to back it up. Anyone can SAY they made a certain amount of power, or ran a certain time but until I see it for myself I have no reason to believe it.
I don't believe the 4.6 tech section is bad, but I don't believe anything that anyone has to say on the internet without a bit of proof to back it up. Anyone can SAY they made a certain amount of power, or ran a certain time but until I see it for myself I have no reason to believe it.
ORIGINAL: OneFastEclipse
And you have posted nothing but what people have said. Again, for the 50th time, I never said it was not possible, I said it is very uncommon! I posted some videos of some heavily bolt-on New Edges to try and make you happy. I can keep searching all night and find more and more of them. They are everywhere. I could probably post 50+ videos of N/A new edge 2v's making less then 300whp and probably can only find 2 or 3 of them making more then 300.
I don't believe the 4.6 tech section is bad, but I don't believe anything that anyone has to say on the internet without a bit of proof to back it up. Anyone can SAY they made a certain amount of power, or ran a certain time but until I see it for myself I have no reason to believe it.
And you have posted nothing but what people have said. Again, for the 50th time, I never said it was not possible, I said it is very uncommon! I posted some videos of some heavily bolt-on New Edges to try and make you happy. I can keep searching all night and find more and more of them. They are everywhere. I could probably post 50+ videos of N/A new edge 2v's making less then 300whp and probably can only find 2 or 3 of them making more then 300.
I don't believe the 4.6 tech section is bad, but I don't believe anything that anyone has to say on the internet without a bit of proof to back it up. Anyone can SAY they made a certain amount of power, or ran a certain time but until I see it for myself I have no reason to believe it.
Its funny, you seemed to have posted videos that made the lowest HP that I have seen with those mods listed, whereas I looked for a few minutes and found more that were the norm (online, but I guess everything online is total B.S., even people posting on these forums, including yourself and myself, are nothing but turds steaming out of a bull's anus).
The biggest thing that would help you right now is to back up your statements with proof. Give me a list of 10 videos of New Edges that are making 300+ whp N/A and I will give you your credit. Until then, I'll stick with my own personal experiences and observations. You really should do the same rather then just going by what you have heard on the internet. Until you see it for yourself, why believe the hype? I bet you are VERY easy to sell products to.
Why do you discredit the videos that I showed, then ask for more? All you will say is "oh they were just 'saying' that they made it, blah blah blah".
Have you done extensive research on a 2V PI GT and its mods before this thread even existed? I have. I don't see a New Edge in your sig...but you've seen a few dynos in person, therefore you must know everything there is about them.
Keep avoiding the bolded part, you know, about H/C/I + bolt on New Edge GTs 'very more than rarely 'making 300+rwhp, not about a light bolt on GT making 300rwhp.
Have you done extensive research on a 2V PI GT and its mods before this thread even existed? I have. I don't see a New Edge in your sig...but you've seen a few dynos in person, therefore you must know everything there is about them.

Keep avoiding the bolded part, you know, about H/C/I + bolt on New Edge GTs 'very more than rarely 'making 300+rwhp, not about a light bolt on GT making 300rwhp.
ORIGINAL: 99GTvert
Why do you discredit the videos that I showed, then ask for more? All you will say is "oh they were just 'saying' that they made it, blah blah blah".
Have you done extensive research on a 2V PI GT and its mods before this thread even existed? I have. I don't see a New Edge in your sig...but you've seen a few dynos in person, therefore you must know everything there is about them.
Keep avoiding the bolded part, you know, about H/C/I + bolt on New Edge GTs 'very more than rarely 'making 300+rwhp, not about a light bolt on GT making 300rwhp.
Why do you discredit the videos that I showed, then ask for more? All you will say is "oh they were just 'saying' that they made it, blah blah blah".
Have you done extensive research on a 2V PI GT and its mods before this thread even existed? I have. I don't see a New Edge in your sig...but you've seen a few dynos in person, therefore you must know everything there is about them.

Keep avoiding the bolded part, you know, about H/C/I + bolt on New Edge GTs 'very more than rarely 'making 300+rwhp, not about a light bolt on GT making 300rwhp.
I'm not avoiding it, I don't see why you seem to think I am. I still stand firm, it is not common for H/C/I New Edge to reach 300+ rwhp. I really don't see what the pissing match is about. So because I don't own one, I can't possibly know anything about them? Do you think 90% of the tuner shops out there own all the cars they work on? My personal proof is that I have yet to see (out of 15-20) a New Edge GT make over 300 at the wheels NA. Plain and simple. You have yet to show any hard evidence either. You show me a video that is supposed to be proof, but then the proof is in the comments underneath the video? Come on.
ORIGINAL: OneFastEclipse
I'm not avoiding it, I don't see why you seem to think I am. I still stand firm, it is not common for H/C/I New Edge to reach 300+ rwhp. I really don't see what the pissing match is about. So because I don't own one, I can't possibly know anything about them? Do you think 90% of the tuner shops out there own all the cars they work on? My personal proof is that I have yet to see (out of 15-20) a New Edge GT make over 300 at the wheels NA. Plain and simple. You have yet to show any hard evidence either. You show me a video that is supposed to be proof, but then the proof is in the comments underneath the video? Come on.
ORIGINAL: 99GTvert
Why do you discredit the videos that I showed, then ask for more? All you will say is "oh they were just 'saying' that they made it, blah blah blah".
Have you done extensive research on a 2V PI GT and its mods before this thread even existed? I have. I don't see a New Edge in your sig...but you've seen a few dynos in person, therefore you must know everything there is about them.
Keep avoiding the bolded part, you know, about H/C/I + bolt on New Edge GTs 'very more than rarely 'making 300+rwhp, not about a light bolt on GT making 300rwhp.
Why do you discredit the videos that I showed, then ask for more? All you will say is "oh they were just 'saying' that they made it, blah blah blah".
Have you done extensive research on a 2V PI GT and its mods before this thread even existed? I have. I don't see a New Edge in your sig...but you've seen a few dynos in person, therefore you must know everything there is about them.

Keep avoiding the bolded part, you know, about H/C/I + bolt on New Edge GTs 'very more than rarely 'making 300+rwhp, not about a light bolt on GT making 300rwhp.
I'm not avoiding it, I don't see why you seem to think I am. I still stand firm, it is not common for H/C/I New Edge to reach 300+ rwhp. I really don't see what the pissing match is about. So because I don't own one, I can't possibly know anything about them? Do you think 90% of the tuner shops out there own all the cars they work on? My personal proof is that I have yet to see (out of 15-20) a New Edge GT make over 300 at the wheels NA. Plain and simple. You have yet to show any hard evidence either. You show me a video that is supposed to be proof, but then the proof is in the comments underneath the video? Come on.
What did those cars make that 'you have seen' with HCI + full bolt ons? You also managed to forget the full bolt on part of the bolded statements. What do you think full bolt ons are? What do stock PI GTs put down? How much do LTs generally gain? What are the most restrictive parts of the 2V PI motor? How much does a CAI really gain? What is better, a 70mm or 75mm throttle body/plenum combo?



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