gt vs. vette
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RE: gt vs. vette
ORIGINAL: Sarge_13
With the 3.55 gears the end of second comes at 62mph.
ORIGINAL: S8ER01Z
While I see your point/agree I still know what other guys are trapping with the OPs mods and it's not 108+ mph (which means putting a C5 in the optimum gear vs the S197 the C5 "SHOULD" have little issue putting some distance on the S197 from a roll on).. as I said before...not sure what gear the OP started in here...but 60mph is a 2nd gear hit that (and I know I am not alone) I would not take (out of fear) and instead would start in 3rd gear.
Maybe OPs 3rd gear endsearlier?? but at the end of 3rd the C5 would have been past the 100mph mark and I don't see why it wouldn't have been pulling at that speed...hell i would expect a stock C5 to be creeping on me by the 3rd especially from a roll on that starts in 2nd gear... lighter, andmore aerodynamic. I guess I can see the OP hanging briefly but it's hard to ignore how potent a C5 is on the highway even in stock form.
ORIGINAL: MrRogers
I hope you guys realize that a C5 and LS1 fbody are dead heat through the 1/4 mile
So the next time a S197 owner thats modded and geared says he beat a camaro or WS6, I want to you same people calling his bluff on that too...
OR
You could realize that under 100mph from a roll a geared/modded S197 should be able to hold it's own against either one
I hope you guys realize that a C5 and LS1 fbody are dead heat through the 1/4 mile
So the next time a S197 owner thats modded and geared says he beat a camaro or WS6, I want to you same people calling his bluff on that too...
OR
You could realize that under 100mph from a roll a geared/modded S197 should be able to hold it's own against either one
Maybe OPs 3rd gear endsearlier?? but at the end of 3rd the C5 would have been past the 100mph mark and I don't see why it wouldn't have been pulling at that speed...hell i would expect a stock C5 to be creeping on me by the 3rd especially from a roll on that starts in 2nd gear... lighter, andmore aerodynamic. I guess I can see the OP hanging briefly but it's hard to ignore how potent a C5 is on the highway even in stock form.
45mph is about the highest speed I will downshift into 2nd, and even then I rev match before I put it into gear.
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RE: gt vs. vette
ORIGINAL: Sarge_13
With the 3.55 gears the end of second comes at 62mph.
ORIGINAL: S8ER01Z
While I see your point/agree I still know what other guys are trapping with the OPs mods and it's not 108+ mph (which means putting a C5 in the optimum gear vs the S197 the C5 "SHOULD" have little issue putting some distance on the S197 from a roll on).. as I said before...not sure what gear the OP started in here...but 60mph is a 2nd gear hit that (and I know I am not alone) I would not take (out of fear) and instead would start in 3rd gear.
Maybe OPs 3rd gear endsearlier?? but at the end of 3rd the C5 would have been past the 100mph mark and I don't see why it wouldn't have been pulling at that speed...hell i would expect a stock C5 to be creeping on me by the 3rd especially from a roll on that starts in 2nd gear... lighter, andmore aerodynamic. I guess I can see the OP hanging briefly but it's hard to ignore how potent a C5 is on the highway even in stock form.
ORIGINAL: MrRogers
I hope you guys realize that a C5 and LS1 fbody are dead heat through the 1/4 mile
So the next time a S197 owner thats modded and geared says he beat a camaro or WS6, I want to you same people calling his bluff on that too...
OR
You could realize that under 100mph from a roll a geared/modded S197 should be able to hold it's own against either one
I hope you guys realize that a C5 and LS1 fbody are dead heat through the 1/4 mile
So the next time a S197 owner thats modded and geared says he beat a camaro or WS6, I want to you same people calling his bluff on that too...
OR
You could realize that under 100mph from a roll a geared/modded S197 should be able to hold it's own against either one
Maybe OPs 3rd gear endsearlier?? but at the end of 3rd the C5 would have been past the 100mph mark and I don't see why it wouldn't have been pulling at that speed...hell i would expect a stock C5 to be creeping on me by the 3rd especially from a roll on that starts in 2nd gear... lighter, andmore aerodynamic. I guess I can see the OP hanging briefly but it's hard to ignore how potent a C5 is on the highway even in stock form.
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From: San Antonio, Texas
RE: gt vs. vette
ORIGINAL: Rock36
I beg to differ....well first where are you shifting at 6K rpm? I have 4.10s and a slightly smaller tire and I still hit 60mph at the top of 2nd gear running it about up to 6300-6400rpm. 3.55s should have a lot more room past 60mph than that.
45mph is about the highest speed I will downshift into 2nd, and even then I rev match before I put it into gear.
ORIGINAL: Sarge_13
With the 3.55 gears the end of second comes at 62mph.
ORIGINAL: S8ER01Z
While I see your point/agree I still know what other guys are trapping with the OPs mods and it's not 108+ mph (which means putting a C5 in the optimum gear vs the S197 the C5 "SHOULD" have little issue putting some distance on the S197 from a roll on).. as I said before...not sure what gear the OP started in here...but 60mph is a 2nd gear hit that (and I know I am not alone) I would not take (out of fear) and instead would start in 3rd gear.
Maybe OPs 3rd gear endsearlier?? but at the end of 3rd the C5 would have been past the 100mph mark and I don't see why it wouldn't have been pulling at that speed...hell i would expect a stock C5 to be creeping on me by the 3rd especially from a roll on that starts in 2nd gear... lighter, andmore aerodynamic. I guess I can see the OP hanging briefly but it's hard to ignore how potent a C5 is on the highway even in stock form.
ORIGINAL: MrRogers
I hope you guys realize that a C5 and LS1 fbody are dead heat through the 1/4 mile
So the next time a S197 owner thats modded and geared says he beat a camaro or WS6, I want to you same people calling his bluff on that too...
OR
You could realize that under 100mph from a roll a geared/modded S197 should be able to hold it's own against either one
I hope you guys realize that a C5 and LS1 fbody are dead heat through the 1/4 mile
So the next time a S197 owner thats modded and geared says he beat a camaro or WS6, I want to you same people calling his bluff on that too...
OR
You could realize that under 100mph from a roll a geared/modded S197 should be able to hold it's own against either one
Maybe OPs 3rd gear endsearlier?? but at the end of 3rd the C5 would have been past the 100mph mark and I don't see why it wouldn't have been pulling at that speed...hell i would expect a stock C5 to be creeping on me by the 3rd especially from a roll on that starts in 2nd gear... lighter, andmore aerodynamic. I guess I can see the OP hanging briefly but it's hard to ignore how potent a C5 is on the highway even in stock form.
45mph is about the highest speed I will downshift into 2nd, and even then I rev match before I put it into gear.
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RE: gt vs. vette
ORIGINAL: jerrym
pulled upside looked like maybe 04-07 vette @ 60 mph dropped into 3rd and we both got on it, l stayed side by side with him all the way thru 3rd when we both shut down - he probably just couldn't drive right?
pulled upside looked like maybe 04-07 vette @ 60 mph dropped into 3rd and we both got on it, l stayed side by side with him all the way thru 3rd when we both shut down - he probably just couldn't drive right?
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RE: gt vs. vette
ORIGINAL: Sarge_13
All I know is, I drove a 100% bone stock 05 GT and at the redline it was right at 62-63mph.
ORIGINAL: Rock36
I beg to differ....well first where are you shifting at 6K rpm? I have 4.10s and a slightly smaller tire and I still hit 60mph at the top of 2nd gear running it about up to 6300-6400rpm. 3.55s should have a lot more room past 60mph than that.
45mph is about the highest speed I will downshift into 2nd, and even then I rev match before I put it into gear.
ORIGINAL: Sarge_13
With the 3.55 gears the end of second comes at 62mph.
ORIGINAL: S8ER01Z
While I see your point/agree I still know what other guys are trapping with the OPs mods and it's not 108+ mph (which means putting a C5 in the optimum gear vs the S197 the C5 "SHOULD" have little issue putting some distance on the S197 from a roll on).. as I said before...not sure what gear the OP started in here...but 60mph is a 2nd gear hit that (and I know I am not alone) I would not take (out of fear) and instead would start in 3rd gear.
Maybe OPs 3rd gear endsearlier?? but at the end of 3rd the C5 would have been past the 100mph mark and I don't see why it wouldn't have been pulling at that speed...hell i would expect a stock C5 to be creeping on me by the 3rd especially from a roll on that starts in 2nd gear... lighter, andmore aerodynamic. I guess I can see the OP hanging briefly but it's hard to ignore how potent a C5 is on the highway even in stock form.
ORIGINAL: MrRogers
I hope you guys realize that a C5 and LS1 fbody are dead heat through the 1/4 mile
So the next time a S197 owner thats modded and geared says he beat a camaro or WS6, I want to you same people calling his bluff on that too...
OR
You could realize that under 100mph from a roll a geared/modded S197 should be able to hold it's own against either one
I hope you guys realize that a C5 and LS1 fbody are dead heat through the 1/4 mile
So the next time a S197 owner thats modded and geared says he beat a camaro or WS6, I want to you same people calling his bluff on that too...
OR
You could realize that under 100mph from a roll a geared/modded S197 should be able to hold it's own against either one
Maybe OPs 3rd gear endsearlier?? but at the end of 3rd the C5 would have been past the 100mph mark and I don't see why it wouldn't have been pulling at that speed...hell i would expect a stock C5 to be creeping on me by the 3rd especially from a roll on that starts in 2nd gear... lighter, andmore aerodynamic. I guess I can see the OP hanging briefly but it's hard to ignore how potent a C5 is on the highway even in stock form.
45mph is about the highest speed I will downshift into 2nd, and even then I rev match before I put it into gear.
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Joined: Aug 2007
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From: Florida
RE: gt vs. vette
ORIGINAL: MrRogers
04 was the last year of the C5 and 05 was the first year of the C6.
If was a C5 then this story is believable, C6..nah.
ORIGINAL: jerrym
pulled upside looked like maybe 04-07 vette @ 60 mph dropped into 3rd and we both got on it, l stayed side by side with him all the way thru 3rd when we both shut down - he probably just couldn't drive right?
pulled upside looked like maybe 04-07 vette @ 60 mph dropped into 3rd and we both got on it, l stayed side by side with him all the way thru 3rd when we both shut down - he probably just couldn't drive right?
If was a C5 then this story is believable, C6..nah.
Op, good win! I had similar results the other day with a C5 vert from a dig, and beat him both times. Both with his TC on and with it off. If you look up the stats on them they aren't exactly rockets by any means, but they are fast(unless of course it's a Z06!), C6's is when it becomes a whole different ballgame.
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From: Daly City,CA
RE: gt vs. vette
ORIGINAL: olvanish
as embarassing as it sounds that vette (I'm assuming 05-07) beats our infamous GT500 on the quarter mile. If you were side to side with him, I say he probably pulled 2 spark plugs out or something before racing u lol
ORIGINAL: jerrym
pulled upside looked like maybe 04-07 vette @ 60 mph dropped into 3rd and we both got on it, l stayed side by side with him all the way thru 3rd when we both shut down - he probably just couldn't drive right?
pulled upside looked like maybe 04-07 vette @ 60 mph dropped into 3rd and we both got on it, l stayed side by side with him all the way thru 3rd when we both shut down - he probably just couldn't drive right?
The win goes to the Gt500 on getting easy horspower from modding....As is the case on allblown/turboed cars...
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From: NC
RE: gt vs. vette
Stock for stock I've seen far better times posted for C6 cars than GT500...of course maybe it's all reflection of driver abilitys (but that would mean more tool bags who can't drive own GT500s than Vettes....that can't be right can it? [8D][8D])
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From: San Antonio, Texas
RE: gt vs. vette
ORIGINAL: S8ER01Z
Stock for stock I've seen far better times posted for C6 cars than GT500...of course maybe it's all reflection of driver abilitys (but that would mean more tool bags who can't drive own GT500s than Vettes....that can't be right can it? [8D][8D])
Stock for stock I've seen far better times posted for C6 cars than GT500...of course maybe it's all reflection of driver abilitys (but that would mean more tool bags who can't drive own GT500s than Vettes....that can't be right can it? [8D][8D])