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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by S8ER01Z
If you weren't defending a position against the facts then I guess I was mistaken....sure looked like it from my angle.
You obviously cant read.

Im not arguing against the facts.

Fact: 3v is superior to 2v < - i agreed with this

Fact: the 3v's cost quite a bit more than a 2v for the whole car < -- i agree with this

Opinion: The cost of a 3v car isnt worth it to ME! because for the same price i could get a C5 z06 or a 03-04 Cobra in some cases.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by S8ER01Z
Thanks ruge... I saw the lighter coupes with 32xx curb weights... so roughly 180~200lb difference?
Yup. Give or take 25lbs from each number. I saw some coupes at 3275, and others at 3330. I took the average of most of the weights I found.

So they are a bit lighter, but are geared less favorably and have less power/torque.

When I had just the axle-backs, a K&N drop-in, and a canned tune I ran my friend's '02 GT with CAI, canned tune, full exhaust, and 3.73s. We ran it 5 times, and I took 3 out of 5. The two cars were running pretty much even, though. Whoever got the jump, got the win. I wasn't powershifting, though. I only had my car for 2 months at the time and I was still learning it.

Oh, I had also pulled out the pre-catalytic in the stock intake tube when we raced. Supposedly good for 5hp.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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Oh yeah, you can find termies and Z06's in the mid to upper teen range?
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BolognaPony
Opinion: The cost of a 3v car isnt worth it to ME! because for the same price i could get a C5 z06 or a 03-04 Cobra in some cases.
You are comparing a used car to a new one yes? Not exactly a fair comparison IMO.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 99GTvert
Oh yeah, you can find termies and Z06's in the mid to upper teen range?
If im gonna pay 17+ for a 3v id make the small jump to 20, where ive seen quite a few 99-02 z06s and a few high mileage 03-04 cobras priced. (by high i mean 60k+)

or at the very least a really clean LS1 Fbody.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Riptide
You are comparing a used car to a new one yes? Not exactly a fair comparison IMO.
Whats not fair? Newness isnt an issue here but the performance per dollar.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BolognaPony
You obviously cant read.
That may be true... I never claimed to be literate.

If you think 3v is to 2v as LS1 is to LT1 you are sadly mistaken.

The LS1 is vastly superior to the LT1, such is not the case with the 3v.

It IS superior...but it wasnt as big a jump as it should have been
This is what I was refering too... while you do state the 3v is superior (I didn't call you retarded so I didn't over look that fact) you also downplayed the difference (which I typically see from a certain group of individuals)...

Sorry if I hit a nerve but you seem to be the only one who doesn't think 40hp is 'significant'...
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BolognaPony
Whats not fair? Newness isnt an issue here but the performance per dollar.
It's only not an issue if you don't care about mileage. A lot of people factor that into decisions.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BolognaPony
or at the very least a really clean LS1 Fbody.
If you'd prefer an almost decade old f-body to a 3 year old Mustang, that's all you, man. I know the LS1 has plenty of mod potential(as does just about everything), but I sure wouldn't go this route.

Then again, I am a Mustang fan-boy, so again I say to each their own.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BolognaPony
If im gonna pay 17+ for a 3v id make the small jump to 20, where ive seen quite a few 99-02 z06s and a few high mileage 03-04 cobras priced. (by high i mean 60k+)

or at the very least a really clean LS1 Fbody.
Your right, you can find z06's and termi's that cheap, but both will have high mileage. A buddy of mine picked up a 02 z06 for 21,000 but it had something like 60,000 on the clock. I personally would rather have a newer, low mileage car, especially since a lot of people with sports cars beat on them. To me, the difference in performance is not worth the headaches that could come along with a high mileage car. Really, I'd rather buy the 06 GT down the street from me that has 7,000 miles for $21,000 than a z06 with 60,000 miles for the same price.

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