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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Well don't expect any future SS's to be coming out.

DETROIT -- General Motors, focusing on mainstream products in a battle to survive, has scrapped a unit that produced high-performance vehicles.
GM today disbanded High Performance Vehicle Operations, which is based at the company's suburban Detroit technical center, and redeployed its engineers, said spokesman Vince Muniga.
"All high-performance projects are on indefinite hold," Muniga said. "The engineers are moving into different areas of the organization, and they will work on Cadillacs, Buicks, Chevrolets and Pontiacs."
The unit created low-volume vehicles for GM's divisions designed to appeal to enthusiasts and bolster the company's image. Products included V-series Cadillacs and the Chevrolet Cobalt SS, HHR SS and a V-8 version of the Colorado.
Muniga said there are no plans for high-performance versions of upcoming cars.The move is in the spirit of GM's viability plan delivered to the U.S. Treasury Department on Tuesday. In the plan, GM said its future-product focus is on fuel- efficient cars and crossovers. It also pledged to increase its current offering of six hybrids to 14 by 2012 and to 26 by 2014. GM also boosted its request for federal aid by as much as $16.6 billion.
The High Performance Vehicle Operations unit could be reinstated once GM regains its financial health, GM's Muniga said.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Whoa! Wonder what that means for camaro? If they phase it out for "effieciency" vehicles... there goes the aftermarket.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Man, that sucks *****. The auto world just got a little more boring.

I hope like hell this whole situation sorts itself out soon, or this country may be in serious trouble.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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I think the country is already in a heap of trouble. I'm a gov't employee which pretty much exempts us from much of the pain but watching my TSP go to crap hasn't been fun.

I was curious to watch the aftermarket companies' plans for the new camaro. Ah well... nobody's buying anything right now anyway. We'll probably see the rare modded camaro on the street.. the rest will be the older guys purchasing their middle-age hot rods ala challenger
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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Either being stock you won't have a problem with a SC/TC. I woudn't go as far as over looking a SC though considering the fastest SS (individual owned)to date is just a 2.85 pullied stock blower SC. Alot of people think it's just about hp when suspension and alike are a big factor on a Cobalt. Hmm.. Cacimar, did you see the GB on the TVS? Surprisingly they sold 40 of them.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by perfect.disguise
Either being stock you won't have a problem with a SC/TC. I woudn't go as far as over looking a SC though considering the fastest SS (individual owned)to date is just a 2.85 pullied stock blower SC. Alot of people think it's just about hp when suspension and alike are a big factor on a Cobalt. Hmm.. Cacimar, did you see the GB on the TVS? Surprisingly they sold 40 of them.
Oh god please dont bring up the TC vs. SC argument over on this site. Like I've mentioned before, the SS/TC has only been out for like 8 months and not everyone has been to the track yet, give it time and the TC will be up there.
Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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For like 8 months.. There have been many tuned and bolted TC's that have been to the track.Though, Obviously I was using the info as a refrence (that either SS are potent modded and one shouldn't be over looked.)Yes, a SC holds the current record and thats why I brought it up considering a well driven SC can run 12.75's with a little over $2500 in it.There is more to the original post and it wasn't meant as a direct comparison for superiority between the SC and TC. Haha, besides with a aftermarket turbo kit there pretty much the same animal.

Though that you bring this up I noticed this and it has me wondering which one really is the fastest..


2/17/09 CSS.net (1BAD3V)
Originally Posted by FutureEcotecOwner
If he did have mods and you still beat him, he was either a very ****ty driver or it was an auto and he still sucked at driving. I have an 05 GT with the mods in my sig and my SS/TC cant even hang with it, from a dig or a roll.
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2005 Ford Mustang GT - 5spd - Pypes o/r X-pipe - Flowmaster Mufflers - C&L Intake - SCT Tuned
2008 Chevy Cobalt SS/TC - 5spd - Muffler Delete - Hahn Cool Ram Intake - Trifecta Tuned



Originally Posted by 1BAD3V
I just recently got my SS/TC tuned and I have a CAI and I honestly believe it will beat my 05 GT with the mods it has.

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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by perfect.disguise
For like 8 months.. There have been many tuned and bolted TC's that have been to the track.Though, Obviously I was using the info as a refrence (that either SS are potent modded and one shouldn't be over looked.)Yes, a SC holds the current record and thats why I brought it up considering a well driven SC can run 12.75's with a little over $2500 in it.There is more to the original post and it wasn't meant as a direct comparison for superiority between the SC and TC. Haha, besides with a aftermarket turbo kit there pretty much the same animal.

Though that you bring this up I noticed this and it has me wondering which one really is the fastest..


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2005 Ford Mustang GT - 5spd - Pypes o/r X-pipe - Flowmaster Mufflers - C&L Intake - SCT Tuned
2008 Chevy Cobalt SS/TC - 5spd - Muffler Delete - Hahn Cool Ram Intake - Trifecta Tuned
Did you not read the whole post when I said my SS/TC cant hang with my GT? I was stating that stock without a tune the TC can't hang with my GT, but now that my TC has been tuned I believe from a roll the TC wins hands down, but from a dig I'm not sure yet.
Old Feb 19, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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Well this should be interesting. Cobalt owners beating up on each other.
Old Feb 19, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt
Well this should be interesting. Cobalt owners beating up on each other.
LOL, you seriously havent seen or heard anything!! Over on the Cobaltss forums there is a battle going on daily of an SS/TC vs. an SS/SC, it happens all the time. TC owners talking sh*t about how the SC owners should give up, and then the SC owners saying that they still reign supreme. It's a daily struggle over there.



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