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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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My girlfriend has a 98 3.8L, and the air conditioning stopped working one day awhile back. I finally got around to tracing the electrical system with the help of a service manual CD. Everything appears to point to the constant control relay module being bad. The fans and fuel pump work fine, so I know the ground is good on it. Pins 21 and 22 have +12V on them, so pin 23 is supposed to have +12V as well. This is the output to the a/c clutch field coil, but it just sits at .13V whether the a/c switch is on or off. When I connect +12V to pin 23, the a/c works and blows really cold. I found a junkyard specializing in Ford parts here and got a replacement from a 97 3.8L today. When I installed it, though, I had the same problem. There is the possibility that the replacement module has the same problem, but I do not know how common CCRM failure is on these cars. More than likely, it is probably something else in the electrical system, but I have been unable to locate anything so far. Any ideas?
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 01:11 AM
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My girlfriend has a 98 3.8L, and the air conditioning stopped working one day awhile back. I finally got around to tracing the electrical system with the help of a service manual CD. Everything appears to point to the constant control relay module being bad. The fans and fuel pump work fine, so I know the ground is good on it. Pins 21 and 22 have +12V on them, so pin 23 is supposed to have +12V as well. This is the output to the a/c clutch field coil, but it just sits at .13V whether the a/c switch is on or off. When I connect +12V to pin 23, the a/c works and blows really cold. I found a junkyard specializing in Ford parts here and got a replacement from a 97 3.8L today. When I installed it, though, I had the same problem. There is the possibility that the replacement module has the same problem, but I do not know how common CCRM failure is on these cars. More than likely, it is probably something else in the electrical system, but I have been unable to locate anything so far. Any ideas?
You sure it's just not low on refrigerant? If it gets too low, the low pressure switch trips and won't allow the compressor to engage.
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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Nevermind, I replaced the CCRM with another one, and it works perfectly. Thanks for the suggestion, 03YellowPony.
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