Engine louder?
The ECM adjusts the timing based on historical signals it receives from the knock sensor and sets a baseline advance curve, mantaining a conservative buffer between that baseline curve and the point at which knocking occurs. Of course, using higher octane reduces the tendency to detonate, thus allowing a more agressive advance curve (hence more power). The ECM will discover this reduced knock tendancy over time and will shift the curve to take advantage of that, but while still maintaining that conservative buffer. What the higher octane tune does is 1) minimize that safety buffer and 2) preset the advance to that more agressive curve.
ORIGINAL: chrisc65
No issues...I don't think it's "bad"...just not required. The manual says it requires 87 octane. Try the 91...you see a huge boost in power.
No issues...I don't think it's "bad"...just not required. The manual says it requires 87 octane. Try the 91...you see a huge boost in power.
My manual does in fact state
I read this as "if you want to try premium you may experience these problems, so we don't recommend it"
I do also see that after market products "may cause damage to the fuel system", fuel containing methanol "can damage critical fuel system components" and that leaded fuels "could damage your engine", however I see nothing about octane-related engine damage. EDIT: That is, unless you count the section that recommends avoiding gasolines with octane counts lower than 87 in high altitude areas.
"If you are experiencing starting, rough idle or hesitation driveability problems, try a different brand of gasoline. 'Premium' unleaded gasoline is not recommended for vehicles designed to use 'Regular' unleaded gasoline because it may cause these problems to become more pronounced." (emphasis added)
I do also see that after market products "may cause damage to the fuel system", fuel containing methanol "can damage critical fuel system components" and that leaded fuels "could damage your engine", however I see nothing about octane-related engine damage. EDIT: That is, unless you count the section that recommends avoiding gasolines with octane counts lower than 87 in high altitude areas.
ORIGINAL: MustangBuddha
My manual does in fact state
I read this as "if you want to try premium you may experience these problems, so we don't recommend it"
I do also see that after market products "may cause damage to the fuel system", fuel containing methanol "can damage critical fuel system components" and that leaded fuels "could damage your engine", however I see nothing about octane-related engine damage. EDIT: That is, unless you count the section that recommends avoiding gasolines with octane counts lower than 87 in high altitude areas.
My manual does in fact state
"If you are experiencing starting, rough idle or hesitation driveability problems, try a different brand of gasoline. 'Premium' unleaded gasoline is not recommended for vehicles designed to use 'Regular' unleaded gasoline because it may cause these problems to become more pronounced." (emphasis added)
I do also see that after market products "may cause damage to the fuel system", fuel containing methanol "can damage critical fuel system components" and that leaded fuels "could damage your engine", however I see nothing about octane-related engine damage. EDIT: That is, unless you count the section that recommends avoiding gasolines with octane counts lower than 87 in high altitude areas.
ORIGINAL: spec24
... the problems as listed can't be good. ...
... the problems as listed can't be good. ...
ORIGINAL: ChristopherCamel
for the amount of money it will cost you to fill a tank with premium its not even worth it..you wont get any real gain out of it
for the amount of money it will cost you to fill a tank with premium its not even worth it..you wont get any real gain out of it
I am also of the opinion that higher octane will help performance. I have the xcal tuner which is programmed for 3 different octanes. Along these same lines, what about octane boosters? The highest gas I can get is 91 and my third tune is for 93. Are boosters ok or should I just stick with 91? Jim
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