California Modification laws NEED HELP?!!!
ORIGINAL: Derf00
That is true but any other minor infractions along with that and they will pull you over. I had driven around in my nissan with side tinted windows and no license plate on the front for like 5 years..then I got a crack in the windshield passenger side. Got pulled over within a day.
Cop told me one infraction alone was not a big deal but three!? He had to cite me.
Red- there is always the local airports that sell plane fuel! 103 or 105 octane I believe.
ORIGINAL: mustangman2424
I don't think cops really care about front tinted windows unless they have nothing else better to do. As long as they are not too dark I don't think they will cause any trouble for you.
I don't think cops really care about front tinted windows unless they have nothing else better to do. As long as they are not too dark I don't think they will cause any trouble for you.
Cop told me one infraction alone was not a big deal but three!? He had to cite me.
Red- there is always the local airports that sell plane fuel! 103 or 105 octane I believe.
I'm not in Cal, but I'm in Mass, which is a 'green state'. This means we have the same laws as Cal.
You CAN modify your car with anything that has a CARB (California Air Resource Board) exemption. For instance I really wanted to buy the C&L CAI, but it had no carb exemption so I had to go with an AEM CAI, which has a carb exemption.
If you do use parts without carb exemption, you will fail a state emmissions test assuming the tester notices. I have honestly never been asked to prove CARB exemption compliance during an inspection in MA. Some stuff has the cert on the part, and sometimes you have to look it up and go prepared with that info. I plan to temporarily remove any suspicious things before getting my next inspection.
The fly on the wall is OBD-II though. I'm not sure what an inspector can see with that. I always swore I would never buy a post 1996 car because of that damn thing, but time finally won.
You CAN modify your car with anything that has a CARB (California Air Resource Board) exemption. For instance I really wanted to buy the C&L CAI, but it had no carb exemption so I had to go with an AEM CAI, which has a carb exemption.
If you do use parts without carb exemption, you will fail a state emmissions test assuming the tester notices. I have honestly never been asked to prove CARB exemption compliance during an inspection in MA. Some stuff has the cert on the part, and sometimes you have to look it up and go prepared with that info. I plan to temporarily remove any suspicious things before getting my next inspection.
The fly on the wall is OBD-II though. I'm not sure what an inspector can see with that. I always swore I would never buy a post 1996 car because of that damn thing, but time finally won.
Fatblazer and Mustangman....I'm in the OC too! I'm in Costa Mesa which is not very far from Anaheim, Orange, Irvine or Newport beach. Welcome to one of the highest cost of living places in the area!!
87 octane just went over $3.00 today! Geez that hurts!!
87 octane just went over $3.00 today! Geez that hurts!!
I would definatly do some research prior to installing your s/c, on the cover of the instructions book for my vortech it says "Legal in California only for racing vehicles which may never be used upon a highway". Under procharger's FAQ it just says most of their s/c are 50 state legal.
Old cars get smog tested every 2 years... this is my first new car, but from what I understand I won't need to get it smogged until it is something like 5 or 7 years old. That might change since you are coming from a different state. Years ago, you could "cheat" the smog test with a little $$$ or if you knew someone, but that's getting hard to do.
The smog laws suck, but what can you do? Like everyone else said... for your mods to be legal they need CARB numbers.
I've heard that when they bust up the street races they nail you for every little infraction... including being too low, too loud (over 88 db I think... got that ticket on my Harley), no front plate, they even look under the car for cats...
As for the tint... well... hit or miss. If a cop is in a bad mood or sees you F***ing around, you'll probably get a ticket. A fix-it ticket. That means you have to pull it off, then go to a police station to have them verify it (same rule for other "fixable" violations, like loud exhaust).
One of the reasons I've held off jumping on the mod-wagon is that I want to wait until there are more CARB certified parts. Apparently it isn't an easy process to get CARB certified...
One step further... if I wanted to drop a 5.4 into my mustang, it would have to be from the same year or newer vehicle, and have all the smog equipment from that vehicle. I don't think you can put a truck engine in a car either. Then... you have to go to a referee station (state run) and they go over the engine swap with a fine toothed comb.
I've never had this problem because I've always owned 1960's cars... smog exempt!
Good luck, enjoy the weather (riding a Harley in a t-shirt on xmas day is the best), and welcome to $3+ per gallon.
The smog laws suck, but what can you do? Like everyone else said... for your mods to be legal they need CARB numbers.
I've heard that when they bust up the street races they nail you for every little infraction... including being too low, too loud (over 88 db I think... got that ticket on my Harley), no front plate, they even look under the car for cats...
As for the tint... well... hit or miss. If a cop is in a bad mood or sees you F***ing around, you'll probably get a ticket. A fix-it ticket. That means you have to pull it off, then go to a police station to have them verify it (same rule for other "fixable" violations, like loud exhaust).
One of the reasons I've held off jumping on the mod-wagon is that I want to wait until there are more CARB certified parts. Apparently it isn't an easy process to get CARB certified...
One step further... if I wanted to drop a 5.4 into my mustang, it would have to be from the same year or newer vehicle, and have all the smog equipment from that vehicle. I don't think you can put a truck engine in a car either. Then... you have to go to a referee station (state run) and they go over the engine swap with a fine toothed comb.
I've never had this problem because I've always owned 1960's cars... smog exempt!
Good luck, enjoy the weather (riding a Harley in a t-shirt on xmas day is the best), and welcome to $3+ per gallon.
SonicStanGirl.....Sure looks like a great place. I was out there couple days ago. I am looking around for apartments. Seems like cost of living is very high out in OC. I average it about 40% more than Sarasota Florida where I currently live.
Fatblazer,
Welcome to Orange County, if you do transfer. We can use all the Stang people we can get. You are correct, in that 91 octane is the highest available. That being said, I run a 93 octane tune from Brenspeed, with absolutely no issues. You can see my other mods in my sig, along with the fact that I am tinted dark all the way around. No problems so far, at least with that. Mustangman is correct in that they usually won't pull you over for it, but, if for something else, they will tack it on.....I believe Mustangman is getting his tint done tomorrow....
Watch out for the motorcycle cops. I got tagged after I had my car about 4 or 5 weeks. 46 mph in a 25 mph zone. $180.00 fine.....
Take care, and welcome, let us know when you get here. We will put together an OC gathering!!!
Mike
Welcome to Orange County, if you do transfer. We can use all the Stang people we can get. You are correct, in that 91 octane is the highest available. That being said, I run a 93 octane tune from Brenspeed, with absolutely no issues. You can see my other mods in my sig, along with the fact that I am tinted dark all the way around. No problems so far, at least with that. Mustangman is correct in that they usually won't pull you over for it, but, if for something else, they will tack it on.....I believe Mustangman is getting his tint done tomorrow....
Watch out for the motorcycle cops. I got tagged after I had my car about 4 or 5 weeks. 46 mph in a 25 mph zone. $180.00 fine.....
Take care, and welcome, let us know when you get here. We will put together an OC gathering!!!
Mike
ORIGINAL: Derf00
Red- there is always the local airports that sell plane fuel! 103 or 105 octane I believe.
Red- there is always the local airports that sell plane fuel! 103 or 105 octane I believe.
ORIGINAL: Fatblazer
There is a possibility I will be relocating to Orange County California. I currently live in Florida, where 93 octane fuel is a blessing, and there are NO emission laws. My car is modified with a Borla Exhaust, and within the next week or so, a Procharger Supercharger. I have been reading some articles about the very strict laws Cali has on modified cars. I am a little confused. Are superchargers illegal? I read an article posted from a San Diego newspaper saying any cars with racing stickers, custom exhaust, or even tinting windows are subject to search anything that might hint off modifications. Citations are issued regularly, and even impounded. Anyone who happens to know the laws better, I would greatly appreciate and information or advice. Also, how are the car insurance rates in Southern Cali? Thanks,
Peter T.
There is a possibility I will be relocating to Orange County California. I currently live in Florida, where 93 octane fuel is a blessing, and there are NO emission laws. My car is modified with a Borla Exhaust, and within the next week or so, a Procharger Supercharger. I have been reading some articles about the very strict laws Cali has on modified cars. I am a little confused. Are superchargers illegal? I read an article posted from a San Diego newspaper saying any cars with racing stickers, custom exhaust, or even tinting windows are subject to search anything that might hint off modifications. Citations are issued regularly, and even impounded. Anyone who happens to know the laws better, I would greatly appreciate and information or advice. Also, how are the car insurance rates in Southern Cali? Thanks,
Peter T.
Richard
ORIGINAL: mlcrycc
Fatblazer,
Welcome to Orange County, if you do transfer. We can use all the Stang people we can get. You are correct, in that 91 octane is the highest available. That being said, I run a 93 octane tune from Brenspeed, with absolutely no issues. You can see my other mods in my sig, along with the fact that I am tinted dark all the way around. No problems so far, at least with that. Mustangman is correct in that they usually won't pull you over for it, but, if for something else, they will tack it on.....I believe Mustangman is getting his tint done tomorrow....
Watch out for the motorcycle cops. I got tagged after I had my car about 4 or 5 weeks. 46 mph in a 25 mph zone. $180.00 fine.....
Take care, and welcome, let us know when you get here. We will put together an OC gathering!!!
Mike
Fatblazer,
Welcome to Orange County, if you do transfer. We can use all the Stang people we can get. You are correct, in that 91 octane is the highest available. That being said, I run a 93 octane tune from Brenspeed, with absolutely no issues. You can see my other mods in my sig, along with the fact that I am tinted dark all the way around. No problems so far, at least with that. Mustangman is correct in that they usually won't pull you over for it, but, if for something else, they will tack it on.....I believe Mustangman is getting his tint done tomorrow....
Watch out for the motorcycle cops. I got tagged after I had my car about 4 or 5 weeks. 46 mph in a 25 mph zone. $180.00 fine.....
Take care, and welcome, let us know when you get here. We will put together an OC gathering!!!
Mike
I'm all for an OC gathering! Everyone here on this forum that is from So Cal seems to gather in LA.


