first off no car guy uses kbb not even insurance people all of them use nada. Its just funny that you just bought the car and now it is worth what ?15% less than it was in the lot? Everyone wants them. this year alone ford will make 100g+ mustangs chevy never made more than 30,000 camaros a year, My old dinosaur is only gaining value everyday. You all cap on the ls powerd cars, but they dont make the camaro anymore and people want them i have one so value will go up mayby when i trade it in for a mustang i will buy something nice with the money i have left after the trade. I just want to post in peace with all of you this will be my last post on this thread if you want to see how im doing i will be in 5.0 forums -----------------power to the v-ate LOSTSOUL my car has 20000 miles not 40000 that is mayby why you get the 20k price

 

No one uses the kelly blue book??? hell I have seen deals have it listed on their used cars on the lots all the time??? Yea.. my car went down in cost when I brought it brand NEW.. last time I checked ALL cars do that. See this is what I'm talkign about.. you come on and tell us that your SS blasted 05 mustanges away (and of course its an SS that is not stock) Now your telling us we will lose moeny when we buy a brand NEW car... WOW... how do you do it Captian Obvious!! WOOOOOO ALL bow to the all knowing [sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif][sm=hail.gif]

 

lol I work at a car dealership and I know that KBB is what we use to decide how much to give a customer for their trade ins.

 

lol I work at a car dealership and I know that KBB is what we use to decide how much to give a customer for their trade ins.

 

Why to f-body guys need to tell the world how long their %^&* is? if you are here to bash Ford Mustangs, do you think people here want to hear that? So many f-body guys are asses. While I own a F-body, I don't even visit thier sites any more because of the egos. Mustangs rule, and so do their owners. If you are here to bash, go away.

 

well, KBB minus a couple hundred. they tried to give me 300 less than what KBB had listed on my old 98. i told them i want that extra 300 or i'm leaving. car salesman are interesting mammals.

 

I dont know.. I tried to give him props.. and he kicked it back at me [sm=bicker.gif] some people are just haters.. [:-]

 

For hp at the wheels, roughly take your crank rated hp and on a manual multiply it by 15%, then subtract that number from the crank rated. Granted, it is a bit off, but with the drivetrains now it's really hard to get a close estimate.

2002SS - please use some sentences/paragraphs. Its not a grammar **** comment, but it is very hard to read what your point is.

 

i would have been shocked if the ss lost to an 05 mustang, the 350 cube ls1 puts out WAY more torque than the 281 in the mustang, hp is as important as people think, its all about the torque curve...

 

wow that is a good way to get some people pissed off, go to a mustang page and say "my car is faster, what the deal-e-o?"
he asked a perfectly leget question and he gets called a lyer and basicly gets flamed.

Popular Hot Rodding (the monthly bible of muscle cars old and new) and put the mustang gt output and over 300 closer to 310. that being said it is no match for a ls1 powered anything... 350 ci > 281ci variable cam timing or not! its not about just the peak hp, you have to look at the torque curve. 300 hp is nice at 5700 rpm but you still have to accelerate to even get to that point, the ls1 is something like 350 ftlbs at as low as 2800 rpm! that means big hp all the way thru the revs. Honestly the chevy v8s have ALWAYS had more power than the fords, because they are bigger and have more money put into rnd. but they also always cost twice as much. what ford does best is find the most cost effecient approach to performace, they dont make 400 hp small blocks, they make 300 hp engines that weigh less and cost half as much.