Ford HIDs?
ORIGINAL: GTStang07
Not saying that your not right but how do you know that the GT500 lights are the same as the GT's? where are you getting your resources?
ORIGINAL: Legion5
There isn't a huge difference in price, if anything they are the same price. The Saleen HIDs look better, use better lighting technology, have a more attractive beam color, and accept aftermarket bulbs.
Gt500 lights are the same as GT lights besides the housing.
ORIGINAL: GTStang07
Can somebody tell me whay the saleen HID's are better then the Mustangs? And why there is a huge difference between in price. Also i saw a GT500 with them. Does anybody know the quality that those are going to.
Can somebody tell me whay the saleen HID's are better then the Mustangs? And why there is a huge difference between in price. Also i saw a GT500 with them. Does anybody know the quality that those are going to.
Gt500 lights are the same as GT lights besides the housing.
It is the same bro.
ORIGINAL: Legion5
Kelvin is the rating, but yes the Ford ones are a greenish color and the saleen ones are blue-purple white
ORIGINAL: Mr.Bape
Sorry I don't know how to copy and paste like that lol. And I just realized it's Kelvin, not Kelvar. Was thinking of bullet proof vests for some reason.
Sorry I don't know how to copy and paste like that lol. And I just realized it's Kelvin, not Kelvar. Was thinking of bullet proof vests for some reason.
Legion5, what you are saying makes no sense. How would the discharge color of your headlights depend on what your car looks like? Are you talking about the bulb housing being green? If not, how would you expect to see a green discharge?
The first question to ask would be, what is the corresponding color-temperature for the bulbs in question? Because we are talking about OEM reflector bowl based HIDs, and not color modified projector based HIDs, or aftermarket HID kits, I would guess that their corresponding color-temp would be between 4100k and 5800k. 4100k is the best balance between light output and pure white, and is most often seen in OEM applications. With any decrease in corresponding color temperature, and you would expect to see yellow, not green. With an increase in corresponding color temp, you expect to see more blue and then up to purple at 12000k. 6000k is a good compromise between good light output and color output, with just a slight blue hue. And anyway, after about 100hours of use (of the expected 2000-2500 hour lifespan), you would expect the bulbs to wear in and see more blue in the color output. Not green.
I guess I am just having a hard time believing that the Ford HIDs are green. It just doesn't make any sense. Aside from the bulb differences between Saleen and Ford HIDs, what other differences are there? Both have integrated cutoffs in the reflector bowl which allow the function of both low beam and high beam in one bowl. What differences are there in ballast technology if any? How could there be enough of a difference between the two, for one to produce green light and the other to produce white/blue?
So unless you can prove otherwise, I'm going to go ahead and call BS
-Chris
The first question to ask would be, what is the corresponding color-temperature for the bulbs in question? Because we are talking about OEM reflector bowl based HIDs, and not color modified projector based HIDs, or aftermarket HID kits, I would guess that their corresponding color-temp would be between 4100k and 5800k. 4100k is the best balance between light output and pure white, and is most often seen in OEM applications. With any decrease in corresponding color temperature, and you would expect to see yellow, not green. With an increase in corresponding color temp, you expect to see more blue and then up to purple at 12000k. 6000k is a good compromise between good light output and color output, with just a slight blue hue. And anyway, after about 100hours of use (of the expected 2000-2500 hour lifespan), you would expect the bulbs to wear in and see more blue in the color output. Not green.
I guess I am just having a hard time believing that the Ford HIDs are green. It just doesn't make any sense. Aside from the bulb differences between Saleen and Ford HIDs, what other differences are there? Both have integrated cutoffs in the reflector bowl which allow the function of both low beam and high beam in one bowl. What differences are there in ballast technology if any? How could there be enough of a difference between the two, for one to produce green light and the other to produce white/blue?
So unless you can prove otherwise, I'm going to go ahead and call BS
-Chris
ORIGINAL: Chrisdr
Legion5, what you are saying makes no sense. How would the discharge color of your headlights depend on what your car looks like?
Legion5, what you are saying makes no sense. How would the discharge color of your headlights depend on what your car looks like?
Are you talking about the bulb housing being green? If not, how would you expect to see a green discharge?
The first question to ask would be, what is the corresponding color-temperature for the bulbs in question? Because we are talking about OEM reflector bowl based HIDs, and not color modified projector based HIDs, or aftermarket HID kits, I would guess that their corresponding color-temp would be between 4100k and 5800k. 4100k is the best balance between light output and pure white, and is most often seen in OEM applications. With any decrease in corresponding color temperature, and you would expect to see yellow, not green. With an increase in corresponding color temp, you expect to see more blue and then up to purple at 12000k. 6000k is a good compromise between good light output and color output, with just a slight blue hue. And anyway, after about 100hours of use (of the expected 2000-2500 hour lifespan), you would expect the bulbs to wear in and see more blue in the color output. Not green.
I guess I am just having a hard time believing that the Ford HIDs are green. It just doesn't make any sense. Aside from the bulb differences between Saleen and Ford HIDs, what other differences are there? Both have integrated cutoffs in the reflector bowl which allow the function of both low beam and high beam in one bowl. What differences are there in ballast technology if any? How could there be enough of a difference between the two, for one to produce green light and the other to produce white/blue?
I guess I am just having a hard time believing that the Ford HIDs are green. It just doesn't make any sense. Aside from the bulb differences between Saleen and Ford HIDs, what other differences are there? Both have integrated cutoffs in the reflector bowl which allow the function of both low beam and high beam in one bowl. What differences are there in ballast technology if any? How could there be enough of a difference between the two, for one to produce green light and the other to produce white/blue?
So unless you can prove otherwise, I'm going to go ahead and call BS
-Chris
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Do you mean green as in greenpower? below is from osram website
Green light for mercury-free XENARC!
With the D3 HID headlight system OSRAMAutomotive Lighting is the world's first supplier of an entirely mercury-free HID system comprising of lamp and control gear. XENARC D3 and D4 light sources introduce a range of environmentally friendly, mercury-free products that still offer all the advantages of OSRAM's existing XENARClamps. The light output and colour of XENARC D3 and D4 are comparable to mercury containing D1 and D2 types. As the mercury is replaced by zinc iodide in the new XENARCsystem, a later separate waste disposal is no longer necessary.
Green light for mercury-free XENARC!
With the D3 HID headlight system OSRAMAutomotive Lighting is the world's first supplier of an entirely mercury-free HID system comprising of lamp and control gear. XENARC D3 and D4 light sources introduce a range of environmentally friendly, mercury-free products that still offer all the advantages of OSRAM's existing XENARClamps. The light output and colour of XENARC D3 and D4 are comparable to mercury containing D1 and D2 types. As the mercury is replaced by zinc iodide in the new XENARCsystem, a later separate waste disposal is no longer necessary.
Are we talking about the light that's useful to the driver (i.e. light that's being reflected off various objects, some of which might be white) or some combination of direct and reflected light that some observer might see? Might be worth knowing whether the specific observer has any known color-blindnesses.
All I see from the driver's seat with the Ford HIDs is white light, very close to the same color as the Silverstars and Silverstar Ultras that I have in other cars and slightly 'whiter' than XtraVisions. But I suppose that a bulb that's somehow out-of-spec could cast light that's above the white light limits in the chart I linked earlier and give a pale greenish cast. Not quite sure how that would physically be accomplished, though.
Norm
All I see from the driver's seat with the Ford HIDs is white light, very close to the same color as the Silverstars and Silverstar Ultras that I have in other cars and slightly 'whiter' than XtraVisions. But I suppose that a bulb that's somehow out-of-spec could cast light that's above the white light limits in the chart I linked earlier and give a pale greenish cast. Not quite sure how that would physically be accomplished, though.
Norm
I'm not really into that color crap, I just want to know if the ford or saleen HIDs are pure white without any coloring. IMO the color schemes on HIDs blind people driving on the opposite side of the road. I don't want to blind people lol.
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