Adding performance to a Automatic
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RE: Adding performance to a Automatic
Can the V6 make 400 hp without forged internals? That's almost double the horsepower, seems shaky to me. I don't know, I have a GT.
I guess the problem is the question is very, very open ended. You can do almost anything to a vehicle with unlimited time and money!
What's your budget?
A cheap and worthwhile mod would be a rear sway bar, since your V6 doesn't have one. You should be able to get a GT sway bar inexpensively. Most people do tune and intake (you've already done that), gears ($600-$800), and sometimes a power adder.
Nitrous is the best bang for you buck. You can get everything you need for about $1,100 (the kit, purge, bottle opener, tune, etc.). I'm currently waiting for mine to come in the mail.
Plenty of people blow their engines with too much boost. It's just cheaper and easier to do with too much nitrous, that's probably why you see so many accidents. That, and a lot of people try to do it on the cheap, for example, not installing a RPM window switch.
I guess the problem is the question is very, very open ended. You can do almost anything to a vehicle with unlimited time and money!
What's your budget?
A cheap and worthwhile mod would be a rear sway bar, since your V6 doesn't have one. You should be able to get a GT sway bar inexpensively. Most people do tune and intake (you've already done that), gears ($600-$800), and sometimes a power adder.
Nitrous is the best bang for you buck. You can get everything you need for about $1,100 (the kit, purge, bottle opener, tune, etc.). I'm currently waiting for mine to come in the mail.
Plenty of people blow their engines with too much boost. It's just cheaper and easier to do with too much nitrous, that's probably why you see so many accidents. That, and a lot of people try to do it on the cheap, for example, not installing a RPM window switch.
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RE: Adding performance to a Automatic
ORIGINAL: wmtheflash
Can the V6 make 400 hp without forged internals? That's almost double the horsepower, seems shaky to me. I don't know, I have a GT.
I guess the problem is the question is very, very open ended. You can do almost anything to a vehicle with unlimited time and money!
What's your budget?
A cheap and worthwhile mod would be a rear sway bar, since your V6 doesn't have one. You should be able to get a GT sway bar inexpensively. Most people do tune and intake (you've already done that), gears ($600-$800), and sometimes a power adder.
Nitrous is the best bang for you buck. You can get everything you need for about $1,100 (the kit, purge, bottle opener, tune, etc.). I'm currently waiting for mine to come in the mail.
Plenty of people blow their engines with too much boost. It's just cheaper and easier to do with too much nitrous, that's probably why you see so many accidents. That, and a lot of people try to do it on the cheap, for example, not installing a RPM window switch.
Can the V6 make 400 hp without forged internals? That's almost double the horsepower, seems shaky to me. I don't know, I have a GT.
I guess the problem is the question is very, very open ended. You can do almost anything to a vehicle with unlimited time and money!
What's your budget?
A cheap and worthwhile mod would be a rear sway bar, since your V6 doesn't have one. You should be able to get a GT sway bar inexpensively. Most people do tune and intake (you've already done that), gears ($600-$800), and sometimes a power adder.
Nitrous is the best bang for you buck. You can get everything you need for about $1,100 (the kit, purge, bottle opener, tune, etc.). I'm currently waiting for mine to come in the mail.
Plenty of people blow their engines with too much boost. It's just cheaper and easier to do with too much nitrous, that's probably why you see so many accidents. That, and a lot of people try to do it on the cheap, for example, not installing a RPM window switch.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2dSOcuHMheI
The X charger gives you something like 115 hp on a stock V6 correct putting you somewhere like 280-290 minimum right ? and thats with no CAI , no tune, basically nothing . getting a v6 to 300 seems like cake.
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RE: Adding performance to a Automatic
ORIGINAL: CapitalG
this guy is apparently near 450
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2dSOcuHMheI
The X charger gives you something like 115 hp on a stock V6 correct putting you somewhere like 280-290 minimum right ? and thats with no CAI , no tune, basically nothing . getting a v6 to 300 seems like cake.
ORIGINAL: wmtheflash
Can the V6 make 400 hp without forged internals? That's almost double the horsepower, seems shaky to me. I don't know, I have a GT.
I guess the problem is the question is very, very open ended. You can do almost anything to a vehicle with unlimited time and money!
What's your budget?
A cheap and worthwhile mod would be a rear sway bar, since your V6 doesn't have one. You should be able to get a GT sway bar inexpensively. Most people do tune and intake (you've already done that), gears ($600-$800), and sometimes a power adder.
Nitrous is the best bang for you buck. You can get everything you need for about $1,100 (the kit, purge, bottle opener, tune, etc.). I'm currently waiting for mine to come in the mail.
Plenty of people blow their engines with too much boost. It's just cheaper and easier to do with too much nitrous, that's probably why you see so many accidents. That, and a lot of people try to do it on the cheap, for example, not installing a RPM window switch.
Can the V6 make 400 hp without forged internals? That's almost double the horsepower, seems shaky to me. I don't know, I have a GT.
I guess the problem is the question is very, very open ended. You can do almost anything to a vehicle with unlimited time and money!
What's your budget?
A cheap and worthwhile mod would be a rear sway bar, since your V6 doesn't have one. You should be able to get a GT sway bar inexpensively. Most people do tune and intake (you've already done that), gears ($600-$800), and sometimes a power adder.
Nitrous is the best bang for you buck. You can get everything you need for about $1,100 (the kit, purge, bottle opener, tune, etc.). I'm currently waiting for mine to come in the mail.
Plenty of people blow their engines with too much boost. It's just cheaper and easier to do with too much nitrous, that's probably why you see so many accidents. That, and a lot of people try to do it on the cheap, for example, not installing a RPM window switch.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2dSOcuHMheI
The X charger gives you something like 115 hp on a stock V6 correct putting you somewhere like 280-290 minimum right ? and thats with no CAI , no tune, basically nothing . getting a v6 to 300 seems like cake.
You will need cams + head work and possibly more to get to 400. its not impossible but you are talking 10,000 to get there properly i would say minimum and the CAI you have now will not work either by the way
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RE: Adding performance to a Automatic
ORIGINAL: howarmat
no no....a tune is already included with that...you cant run a s/c without a tune! and you cant use pulleys then either so dont figure those in your gains.
You will need cams + head work and possibly more to get to 400. its not impossible but you are talking 10,000 to get there properly i would say minimum and the CAI you have now will not work either by the way
ORIGINAL: CapitalG
this guy is apparently near 450
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2dSOcuHMheI
The X charger gives you something like 115 hp on a stock V6 correct putting you somewhere like 280-290 minimum right ? and thats with no CAI , no tune, basically nothing . getting a v6 to 300 seems like cake.
ORIGINAL: wmtheflash
Can the V6 make 400 hp without forged internals? That's almost double the horsepower, seems shaky to me. I don't know, I have a GT.
I guess the problem is the question is very, very open ended. You can do almost anything to a vehicle with unlimited time and money!
What's your budget?
A cheap and worthwhile mod would be a rear sway bar, since your V6 doesn't have one. You should be able to get a GT sway bar inexpensively. Most people do tune and intake (you've already done that), gears ($600-$800), and sometimes a power adder.
Nitrous is the best bang for you buck. You can get everything you need for about $1,100 (the kit, purge, bottle opener, tune, etc.). I'm currently waiting for mine to come in the mail.
Plenty of people blow their engines with too much boost. It's just cheaper and easier to do with too much nitrous, that's probably why you see so many accidents. That, and a lot of people try to do it on the cheap, for example, not installing a RPM window switch.
Can the V6 make 400 hp without forged internals? That's almost double the horsepower, seems shaky to me. I don't know, I have a GT.
I guess the problem is the question is very, very open ended. You can do almost anything to a vehicle with unlimited time and money!
What's your budget?
A cheap and worthwhile mod would be a rear sway bar, since your V6 doesn't have one. You should be able to get a GT sway bar inexpensively. Most people do tune and intake (you've already done that), gears ($600-$800), and sometimes a power adder.
Nitrous is the best bang for you buck. You can get everything you need for about $1,100 (the kit, purge, bottle opener, tune, etc.). I'm currently waiting for mine to come in the mail.
Plenty of people blow their engines with too much boost. It's just cheaper and easier to do with too much nitrous, that's probably why you see so many accidents. That, and a lot of people try to do it on the cheap, for example, not installing a RPM window switch.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2dSOcuHMheI
The X charger gives you something like 115 hp on a stock V6 correct putting you somewhere like 280-290 minimum right ? and thats with no CAI , no tune, basically nothing . getting a v6 to 300 seems like cake.
You will need cams + head work and possibly more to get to 400. its not impossible but you are talking 10,000 to get there properly i would say minimum and the CAI you have now will not work either by the way
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RE: Adding performance to a Automatic
ORIGINAL: CapitalG
ok I hear what your saying but do you think I bought a $200 CAI and a $260 Tuner for my health. I know a torque converter improves the performance of a Automatic transmission, so common sense says it obviously must go somewhere on the transmission. I just dont know where.
Do you really think I was going to put it on my windshield or jam it in my gas tank ? I dont have the knowledge of a mechanic but that doesnt mean I should keep my car stocked.
ORIGINAL: Miracle
Look man.... in all honesty... you have a V6. Unless you wanna dump quite a bit of money in it, to have SOMEONE ELSE build it up.... then just keep it a daily driver, stock, and just do maintenance on it.
My reason behind telling you this... and DON'T take this the wrong way: You don't know much about the mechanical aspect of how performance cars work. You don't even know WHERE a Torque Converter goes inside a car.
But I will tell you this... it sits in between the engine and transmission, where the clutch would go if your car was manual. It provides seperation between the engine and transmission when the car is stopped, to keep the engine from dying out.
If you want to put a little time money and effort into making your V6 faster, READ.... that's the best advice I can give you. Read up.
Look man.... in all honesty... you have a V6. Unless you wanna dump quite a bit of money in it, to have SOMEONE ELSE build it up.... then just keep it a daily driver, stock, and just do maintenance on it.
My reason behind telling you this... and DON'T take this the wrong way: You don't know much about the mechanical aspect of how performance cars work. You don't even know WHERE a Torque Converter goes inside a car.
But I will tell you this... it sits in between the engine and transmission, where the clutch would go if your car was manual. It provides seperation between the engine and transmission when the car is stopped, to keep the engine from dying out.
If you want to put a little time money and effort into making your V6 faster, READ.... that's the best advice I can give you. Read up.
Do you really think I was going to put it on my windshield or jam it in my gas tank ? I dont have the knowledge of a mechanic but that doesnt mean I should keep my car stocked.
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RE: Adding performance to a Automatic
ORIGINAL: olvanish
I have to agree with the guy. I learned it the hard way by ruining the first car that I tried modifying and I got it brand new, too. I thought I knew something and the way I looked at things was "it makes my car go faster so what else matters?" The consequences I had to face were serious enough for me to sell my car because I got tired of the headache it started giving me due to parts I installed damaging other parts on the car. If people say that the torque converter you're looking at is not recommended for streets you should consider it, and it has nothing to do with where it goes or even what it does. A lot of suspension parts say "race only" on them and you probably think "im not worried about ride quality, **** that". In reality you gonna end up changing your whole suspension because of that one race only part you got and will end up with cracks on the frame, or strut towers or somewhere else. I know you can do it, I know you can get it figured out and installed, but the thing is is your car gonna be ok with it?
ORIGINAL: CapitalG
ok I hear what your saying but do you think I bought a $200 CAI and a $260 Tuner for my health. I know a torque converter improves the performance of a Automatic transmission, so common sense says it obviously must go somewhere on the transmission. I just dont know where.
Do you really think I was going to put it on my windshield or jam it in my gas tank ? I dont have the knowledge of a mechanic but that doesnt mean I should keep my car stocked.
ORIGINAL: Miracle
Look man.... in all honesty... you have a V6. Unless you wanna dump quite a bit of money in it, to have SOMEONE ELSE build it up.... then just keep it a daily driver, stock, and just do maintenance on it.
My reason behind telling you this... and DON'T take this the wrong way: You don't know much about the mechanical aspect of how performance cars work. You don't even know WHERE a Torque Converter goes inside a car.
But I will tell you this... it sits in between the engine and transmission, where the clutch would go if your car was manual. It provides seperation between the engine and transmission when the car is stopped, to keep the engine from dying out.
If you want to put a little time money and effort into making your V6 faster, READ.... that's the best advice I can give you. Read up.
Look man.... in all honesty... you have a V6. Unless you wanna dump quite a bit of money in it, to have SOMEONE ELSE build it up.... then just keep it a daily driver, stock, and just do maintenance on it.
My reason behind telling you this... and DON'T take this the wrong way: You don't know much about the mechanical aspect of how performance cars work. You don't even know WHERE a Torque Converter goes inside a car.
But I will tell you this... it sits in between the engine and transmission, where the clutch would go if your car was manual. It provides seperation between the engine and transmission when the car is stopped, to keep the engine from dying out.
If you want to put a little time money and effort into making your V6 faster, READ.... that's the best advice I can give you. Read up.
Do you really think I was going to put it on my windshield or jam it in my gas tank ? I dont have the knowledge of a mechanic but that doesnt mean I should keep my car stocked.
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RE: Adding performance to a Automatic
ORIGINAL: CapitalG
this guy is apparently near 450
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2dSOcuHMheI
The X charger gives you something like 115 hp on a stock V6 correct putting you somewhere like 280-290 minimum right ? and thats with no CAI , no tune, basically nothing . getting a v6 to 300 seems like cake.
ORIGINAL: wmtheflash
Can the V6 make 400 hp without forged internals? That's almost double the horsepower, seems shaky to me. I don't know, I have a GT.
I guess the problem is the question is very, very open ended. You can do almost anything to a vehicle with unlimited time and money!
What's your budget?
A cheap and worthwhile mod would be a rear sway bar, since your V6 doesn't have one. You should be able to get a GT sway bar inexpensively. Most people do tune and intake (you've already done that), gears ($600-$800), and sometimes a power adder.
Nitrous is the best bang for you buck. You can get everything you need for about $1,100 (the kit, purge, bottle opener, tune, etc.). I'm currently waiting for mine to come in the mail.
Plenty of people blow their engines with too much boost. It's just cheaper and easier to do with too much nitrous, that's probably why you see so many accidents. That, and a lot of people try to do it on the cheap, for example, not installing a RPM window switch.
Can the V6 make 400 hp without forged internals? That's almost double the horsepower, seems shaky to me. I don't know, I have a GT.
I guess the problem is the question is very, very open ended. You can do almost anything to a vehicle with unlimited time and money!
What's your budget?
A cheap and worthwhile mod would be a rear sway bar, since your V6 doesn't have one. You should be able to get a GT sway bar inexpensively. Most people do tune and intake (you've already done that), gears ($600-$800), and sometimes a power adder.
Nitrous is the best bang for you buck. You can get everything you need for about $1,100 (the kit, purge, bottle opener, tune, etc.). I'm currently waiting for mine to come in the mail.
Plenty of people blow their engines with too much boost. It's just cheaper and easier to do with too much nitrous, that's probably why you see so many accidents. That, and a lot of people try to do it on the cheap, for example, not installing a RPM window switch.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2dSOcuHMheI
The X charger gives you something like 115 hp on a stock V6 correct putting you somewhere like 280-290 minimum right ? and thats with no CAI , no tune, basically nothing . getting a v6 to 300 seems like cake.
As far as the video is concerned, it's very simple to add boost, you just need a new pulley. The overall question is: Is it safe? 12 psi is a lot of boost for stock internals to take. He's also done heads and cams, that's over and above a supercharger.
Again, I'm not sure what a safe level of boost is on a V6, but you generally can't more than double the horsepower of an engine without doing anything to the internals and expect it to be reliable.
The bigger question is money. You can obviously spend as much as you want on the car.
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