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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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I already ordered the kit that came with all the bearings and everything. Like you said it was right at about 650.
So yeah... with that and the clutch and flywheel replacement.
It got up there in price.

No more mods for a while for me.
Old Jul 18, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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Sorry to hear about the cost, but the peace of mind that comes with knowing everything is running right is just about priceless.
Old Jul 18, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Yeah... now I am worried about the clutch and If I got the right one though.

AM is saying on their info site that the stage 3 is for highly modified Mustangs only and that the carbon wears the flywheel faster, especially in traffic situations.
Actually... here is the link to that guide:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/choosing-clutch.html

I can deal with getting used to a different clutch.. no matter how different it is. I just don't want the flywheel going out on me really soon
and having to pay AGAIN soon to take the tranny apart to re-do the flywheel or have to get a different clutch because this one is making me
go through flywheels.
My car is a daily driver. I don't go out of town often and our traffic is about as light as anyone could imagine but we do have the red lights everywhere.

You can see my list of mods.
I am making about 320RWHP and 305trq.
Do I get on the car? YES! I suspect that might be why the other problems came. Because I was modding and getting on the
ol' pedal.
Do I plan on adding more power? Yes. But it will be a while given the amount I have spent lately.
I doubt my car will ever see above 380rwhp though.

I just didn't want to order the stage 2 or 2+ when people were saying there were issues with them.
I am worried that I got the wrong clutch and that the flywheel is gonna go on me fast now. So again I am now stressed out.
I just need some help knowing if I did the right thing or not and if this clutch is gonna make me go through the flywheel fast since it is
my daily driver.

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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 01:40 AM
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Great. Now I am also hearing that the SPEC 3 is too much for my trq and power.
I am being told that I will probably snap my input shaft with this
clutch.
Old Jul 19, 2010 | 02:24 AM
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Hold on dude. Is the new clutch installed yet? If not dont panic, you can return it. You need to find out which clutch you should have. Do some research, slow down. Make informed decisions. I know you have had some bad luck, I understand, I went through something similar with my vipertruck.
Old Jul 19, 2010 | 07:28 AM
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Not installed yet... but my car is sitting in the shop an it is the only car I have.
If I return it I am going to have to wait for it to go back... then get back here... But I guess that is what I will have to do.

I wish the other guys that were helping me out on the forum were online to chime in. I am also going to try to call AM this morning when they open and see if there is any way they can change the order before it ships today.

Edit:
Order shipped already.
But they said I could still order the other clutch.... return this one unopened and when they get it back credit my card back.
That way I would not have to wait for them to get the returned one... then get it shipped back to me.
Now I need to talk someone about the 2+ instead of the 3 on the forums here

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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 08:33 AM
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I don't know who told you that the SPEC 3 will "snap your input shaft", but a hearty lol to that person. Lot's of people run SPEC 3 and 3+ on daily drivers. Once you get used to the on/off feel of the clutch and not being able to feather it quite as much as a stocker, you'll be fine. There's no need to send it back or buy anything else. If anything, it's a good choice because it still gives you room to grow. When I bought my SPEC 2, I was naturally aspirated. I wish now that I had gone with something stronger.
Old Jul 19, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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yeah dude... your not going to snap your input shaft. It has the potential to hold enough to snap it.... if say you were running 500 RWHP and doing 5k launches on drag radials you might have the power to do it as well.

Your not going to snap a input shaft with that clutch. The drivability isnt bad, it is a grabby clutch though, so like diabolical just said, and I said previously, your not going to ride the clutch as long at low RPM as you used to. You raise the RPMs at the start a little bit and let that clutch do what its meant to do, its not a big deal. And the wear through a flywheel faster... yeah, maybe you only get 100,000 mile on the flywheel instead of 150,000. But somehow I dont think your looking that long term, and even if you are, that spec flywheel is rebuildable. i got to go to work, but if you have any more concerns throw them up here and I'm sure the collective can smooth them out for ya.
Old Jul 19, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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You'd have to have the required torque to actually snap the shaft. The clutch itself isn't going to do it, it's only a holding mechanism to transmit engine power. Think about gripping a pencil. Is it your grip thats is going to break the pencil, or the torque from the rest of your arm turning that is going to break it?
Old Jul 19, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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K.
I talked to SPEC, AM, and Brenspeed.
I actually told them my future plans for the car.
Possible F.I. but not strong F.I.
With top power at 450rwhp and 420 trq or a bit less even.
That would be in a year or so and that would be with very good luck.
Odds are this car will not see F.I. to be honest.

From what they told me, even with F.I. I would be fine with a SPEC 2 +.
They asked me how much I tracked the car and I told them the honest truth. NEVER.

They all seemed to think I COULD go with the SPEC 3 but that they thought it would be an overkill and that I would expect to hear some clutch chatter in 1st and reverse with it... and that it
would not be very fun to drive everyday in traffic.

I was told the SPEC 2+ was good for 669ft lb torq and that with my aspirations for the car, it would be PLENTY.
I was also told even the SPEC 2+ feels a bit different from the stock clutch, but feels MUCH better for daily driving.

So I actually ordered the 2+ from AM.
So both of them will be at my house tomorrow lol.
AM told me I could just send the one I did not want to use back
as long as I did not open it and they would refund my credit bill.

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