ORIGINAL: BlackSpirit

I agree 100% with you man! I would pay for a whole new ECU if necessary to remove that **** box (somebody please make one). Secondly this is just another insurance ploy at saving money.

ORIGINAL: Stangie

Insurance ploy? How so?

ORIGINAL: BlackSpirit

Do I seriously really have to explain it? How much money and time do insurance companies spend on investigating collisions, and how many times do the insurance companies get it right? Less money needed to acquire all the facts of the collision rather than speculating and wasting adjusters time, thus the insurance companies save time and money. Insurance companies always have ploys to save money and this obviously looks to be one.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...09/ai_n7184560
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6108126.html
http://www.ncsl.org/programs/lis/privacy/blackbox06.htm
http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...223914,00.html


If you ever hit my car, I pray you don't have it. That way, my recorder will say I was driving the legal speed limit and my car was in perfect control, and yours.. "officer I took the **** box out."

I just don't want Big Brother pushing it's way into my life, if you enjoy being their lemming by all means enjoy the black box, while your at it have them put a micro-chip in your ***, or tag your ear, "just in case" you never know what may happen and you may want to be covered. Secondly it isn't even illegal to remove it, considering it is not even a law to have them nor was I notified of this, so even if I ran into you at 150mph, I could tell the cop to kiss my *** when he askes for the recorder, and if he really wanted to get nasty I could tie it up with the ACLU long enough to make your car a classic, so in other words companies are wasting money installing these units an actual law is implemented, and by the look of things the ACLU won't allow that to happen any time soon. So I recommend you mount a video camera in your car, just in case I run into you!

ORIGINAL: Stangie


Just think; if everybody stopped street racing how much lower would our insurance premiums be? A bunch lower.

ORIGINAL: Stangie

Insurance ploy? How so?

if I ran into you at 150mph, I could tell the cop to kiss my *** when he askes for the recorder, and if he really wanted to get nasty I could tie it up with the ACLU long enough to make your car a classic, so in other words companies are wasting money installing these units an actual law is implemented, and by the look of things the ACLU won't allow that to happen any time soon. So I recommend you mount a video camera in your car, just in case I run into you!

ORIGINAL: Rippin n Tarrin


In my area it wouldn't lower the rates of insurance. The insurance companies around hear will come up with another reason rates should be high.

The city was told some years ago that the rates are high in Philly because of the amount of uninsured motorist. The city issued a program to get rid of a lot uninsured vehicles. They seized a couple of 1000 cars. When people question why haven't we seen a decrease in rates, they just say, " that isn't the only information we base our rated on."

So it doesn't mater what you do to lower your rates, because, it will not be the only information they base their rates on.