LIGHTWEIGHT WHEEL ADVANTAGE?
11-05-2006, 12:03 PM
#1
4th Gear Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 1,178
LIGHTWEIGHT WHEEL ADVANTAGE?
I know light weight wheels are better than heavyweights but am looking for what the correlation is. I had heard that each pounf of a wheel is equal to 8# off the sprung weight(body). That seems high. Also read that there is not a big difference, that each 10#/wheel lighter equals 16.5# of body weight. That says that each pound =1.65lbs of body weight, not much.
Does anyone have the info and a link? I did a google search and read 10 pages and did not find what I am looking for.
On the topic of weight what does 100lbs removed from the body = in et time given equal conditions? I had always thought that each 100# = a tenth off the et. Anyone have info on this, sprung weight?
Then there is an aluminum drive shaft for our cars but I see no advantage as the rotation is so much concentrated in the center. Thanks, mark
Does anyone have the info and a link? I did a google search and read 10 pages and did not find what I am looking for.
On the topic of weight what does 100lbs removed from the body = in et time given equal conditions? I had always thought that each 100# = a tenth off the et. Anyone have info on this, sprung weight?
Then there is an aluminum drive shaft for our cars but I see no advantage as the rotation is so much concentrated in the center. Thanks, mark
11-05-2006, 12:39 PM
#2
Pro. B.S. caller outer
Join Date: May 2004
Location: IL
Posts: 9,644
RE: LIGHTWEIGHT WHEEL ADVANTAGE?
Every car is different but in general 100lbs= a .10 ET reduction, this forumla does not work for faster cars but is a good guidline for a street car. As for wheels they can help quite a bit up to .3 in my experiance. Now I gotta say this next part. Whatever gains you see from them on your little Gtech thingy should not be quoted as REAL WORLD gains, when you talking gains of less than .3 tenths there is no way of knowing if the gains were from better driving, weather, a tail wind etc. Please listen to people who have more experiance than you do, we are just trying to help.
11-05-2006, 01:27 PM
#3
5th Gear Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,625
RE: LIGHTWEIGHT WHEEL ADVANTAGE?
Don't forget the tiny stupid tires up front to reduce drag as well! I love it when I see people on the street when their stangs have tiny tires up front like they are racing it down the runway. I just laugh at them and ask how the handle in the corners and over the bumps!..lol It def. helps going down the runway along with the lighter wheels, but if you don't have anything close to 600hp, I wouldn't waste your time on lightweight wheels! Same thing with the drive shaft. It will cost you about $350 and you won't even beable to tell any difference. Don't be fooled when people who do low 10's down the runway say it helps, it does but there are many many other parts and factors involved with making everything come together! If you need anythin is to lighten up your load quite a bit, like throwing your spare tire and jack in the garage and only fueling up 1/4 to 1/2 a tank. Make sure your trunk is EMPTY! A trunkmount battery believe it or not will help a closer to stock situation better than lightweight wheels for the money! ($175) I wouldn't worry about doing a rear seat delete as I think they are the stupidest things out there. Your back seat doesn't weigh more than 15#'s all together and it gives it a cheesy look. Race seats will yield you about 25#'s. Those should help you get Full subframes under your car without gaining more weight. (completely gutting your interior only yeilds roughly 130lbs all together!)
11-05-2006, 01:48 PM
#4
Pro. B.S. caller outer
Join Date: May 2004
Location: IL
Posts: 9,644
RE: LIGHTWEIGHT WHEEL ADVANTAGE?
ORIGINAL: 97targa
Don't forget the tiny stupid tires up front to reduce drag as well! I love it when I see people on the street when their stangs have tiny tires up front like they are racing it down the runway. I just laugh at them and ask how the handle in the corners and over the bumps!..lol It def. helps going down the runway along with the lighter wheels, but if you don't have anything close to 600hp, I wouldn't waste your time on lightweight wheels! Same thing with the drive shaft. It will cost you about $350 and you won't even beable to tell any difference. Don't be fooled when people who do low 10's down the runway say it helps, it does but there are many many other parts and factors involved with making everything come together! If you need anythin is to lighten up your load quite a bit, like throwing your spare tire and jack in the garage and only fueling up 1/4 to 1/2 a tank. Make sure your trunk is EMPTY! A trunkmount battery believe it or not will help a closer to stock situation better than lightweight wheels for the money! ($175) I wouldn't worry about doing a rear seat delete as I think they are the stupidest things out there. Your back seat doesn't weigh more than 15#'s all together and it gives it a cheesy look. Race seats will yield you about 25#'s. Those should help you get Full subframes under your car without gaining more weight. (completely gutting your interior only yeilds roughly 130lbs all together!)
Don't forget the tiny stupid tires up front to reduce drag as well! I love it when I see people on the street when their stangs have tiny tires up front like they are racing it down the runway. I just laugh at them and ask how the handle in the corners and over the bumps!..lol It def. helps going down the runway along with the lighter wheels, but if you don't have anything close to 600hp, I wouldn't waste your time on lightweight wheels! Same thing with the drive shaft. It will cost you about $350 and you won't even beable to tell any difference. Don't be fooled when people who do low 10's down the runway say it helps, it does but there are many many other parts and factors involved with making everything come together! If you need anythin is to lighten up your load quite a bit, like throwing your spare tire and jack in the garage and only fueling up 1/4 to 1/2 a tank. Make sure your trunk is EMPTY! A trunkmount battery believe it or not will help a closer to stock situation better than lightweight wheels for the money! ($175) I wouldn't worry about doing a rear seat delete as I think they are the stupidest things out there. Your back seat doesn't weigh more than 15#'s all together and it gives it a cheesy look. Race seats will yield you about 25#'s. Those should help you get Full subframes under your car without gaining more weight. (completely gutting your interior only yeilds roughly 130lbs all together!)
11-05-2006, 02:49 PM
#6
5th Gear Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In between Your Mom's Titties, skeet skeet..
Posts: 2,045
RE: LIGHTWEIGHT WHEEL ADVANTAGE?
ORIGINAL: JD1969
If you race around on twisty roads and weave in and out of traffic your just a moron.
If you race around on twisty roads and weave in and out of traffic your just a moron.
I resemble that comment
Well, everything but weaving in and out of traffic... I enjoy the twisty roads, and exercise my common sense, instead of my testosterone..
But JD1969 hit the nail on the head.. Keep in mind that every pound you take off the car will help, regardless.. A lot of the free mods are taking extraneous sh-t out of the car..
JT
11-05-2006, 03:22 PM
#7
5th Gear Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: CA
Posts: 3,023
RE: LIGHTWEIGHT WHEEL ADVANTAGE?
ORIGINAL: handyandy
Not to jack the thread or anything, but how much do the stock GT wheels like I have weigh?
Not to jack the thread or anything, but how much do the stock GT wheels like I have weigh?
r a street car. As for w
Hmm, id imagne to find that you would look at the shipping on someone who is selling them.
11-05-2006, 07:07 PM
#8
2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location:
Posts: 371
RE: LIGHTWEIGHT WHEEL ADVANTAGE?
disagree with camaro kid here. sure dragging is fun and all, but circuit racing takes a hell of a lot more skill than dragging.
lets see whats harder? and more challenging?
A- pedal to the floor, shift gears. over in 6-25sec. depending if your driving a funny car. or stock scion xb
B- pedal to the floor if possible, including hairpin turns and constant shifting. over in........well a long time
lets see whats harder? and more challenging?
A- pedal to the floor, shift gears. over in 6-25sec. depending if your driving a funny car. or stock scion xb
B- pedal to the floor if possible, including hairpin turns and constant shifting. over in........well a long time
11-05-2006, 07:15 PM
#9
Pro. B.S. caller outer
Join Date: May 2004
Location: IL
Posts: 9,644
RE: LIGHTWEIGHT WHEEL ADVANTAGE?
ORIGINAL: HpOoRwSeEr
disagree with camaro kid here. sure dragging is fun and all, but circuit racing takes a hell of a lot more skill than dragging.
lets see whats harder? and more challenging?
A- pedal to the floor, shift gears. over in 6-25sec. depending if your driving a funny car. or stock scion xb
B- pedal to the floor if possible, including hairpin turns and constant shifting. over in........well a long time
disagree with camaro kid here. sure dragging is fun and all, but circuit racing takes a hell of a lot more skill than dragging.
lets see whats harder? and more challenging?
A- pedal to the floor, shift gears. over in 6-25sec. depending if your driving a funny car. or stock scion xb
B- pedal to the floor if possible, including hairpin turns and constant shifting. over in........well a long time
11-05-2006, 08:28 PM
#10
4th Gear Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 1,541
RE: LIGHTWEIGHT WHEEL ADVANTAGE?
i hear that every pound off rotational weight (wheels, tires, driveshafts etc etc) is equivalent to seven off the unsprung weight...dont ask for a physics or mathmatical explanation, it sounds good though if its true
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jwog666
Pipes, Boost & Juice
11
12-27-2021 08:09 PM
mungodrums
S550 2015-2023 Mustang
10
09-28-2015 10:54 PM
05, 06, 14, advantage, advantages, body, difference, gt, light, lightweight, make, mustang, reduction, wheel, wheels
