5.4 2v swap questions
#12
Also, I know a guy that makes carb'd racing intakes for the B headed 4.6 DOHC. Its custom, TIG welded aluminum and sells for 500$
I am probably going to build one for my 66' coupe. Reallyyyyy Liking the idea of buying a 94' or 95' roller in either black or red and dropping one in with his intake. maybe a juice cam and a 125 shot.
Anyhow, just thought Id spread the word.
-Grimm
I am probably going to build one for my 66' coupe. Reallyyyyy Liking the idea of buying a 94' or 95' roller in either black or red and dropping one in with his intake. maybe a juice cam and a 125 shot.
Anyhow, just thought Id spread the word.
-Grimm
Last edited by jgrimm; 09-03-2010 at 10:51 AM.
#13
If you must have a 5.4, Id go with the 4V out of the 1999+ Navi. They are numerous and availible for around 1500-2k at local junkyards. Here's the FAQ on it:
5.4L DOHC Swap FAQ's by Grimm
The stock computer should work fine.
The intake is def. not 1500$ Sullivan makes a nice intake for around 650 bucks if memory serves me right. HPS also makes them. The Sullivan will fit under your stock hood.
If you are concerned about weight and still want a 4v engine, go with an Italian block (Teksid Block) 4.6 4V out of a Mark VIII. Its cheaper and lighter than a termi block and can handle 1000+HP easy if you put a forged rotating assembly in it. If its the bigger size you want, there are a few companies that sell a forged stroker kit for around 1k minus pistons (this way you choose the overbore). This is a good choice if you wanna boost it later on down the road and the Mark VIII's powerplant isn't slow in stock form either coming in with 290 Stock HP.
Also, if you go to your local u-pull-it or pull-a-part yard, you may luck out on a Teksid block 4.6 as the engines are sold at a flat-rate. (About 200$)
The 5.4L 2V only weighs 25LB more than your stock 4.6L. Its the same block.
Mod engine weights in LBS:
4.6L SOHC 500 lbs.
5.4L SOHC 525 lbs
4.6L DOHC Aluminum Block 425 lbs
5.4L DOHC 540 lbs
6.8L SOHC V-10 640 lbs.
The stock strut tower bar should work, but I would measure to make sure.
Exhaust-wise, you will probably have to use a shorty header as you have less clearance due to the wider stance of the engine. I know the 5.4 4V is 28 1/4" wide as opposed to the 4.6 4V's stance of 26 5/8"
You wont have to do much rigging. And if you keep the emissions equipment in tact and hooked up, you'll pass...
-Grimm
5.4L DOHC Swap FAQ's by Grimm
The stock computer should work fine.
The intake is def. not 1500$ Sullivan makes a nice intake for around 650 bucks if memory serves me right. HPS also makes them. The Sullivan will fit under your stock hood.
If you are concerned about weight and still want a 4v engine, go with an Italian block (Teksid Block) 4.6 4V out of a Mark VIII. Its cheaper and lighter than a termi block and can handle 1000+HP easy if you put a forged rotating assembly in it. If its the bigger size you want, there are a few companies that sell a forged stroker kit for around 1k minus pistons (this way you choose the overbore). This is a good choice if you wanna boost it later on down the road and the Mark VIII's powerplant isn't slow in stock form either coming in with 290 Stock HP.
Also, if you go to your local u-pull-it or pull-a-part yard, you may luck out on a Teksid block 4.6 as the engines are sold at a flat-rate. (About 200$)
The 5.4L 2V only weighs 25LB more than your stock 4.6L. Its the same block.
Mod engine weights in LBS:
4.6L SOHC 500 lbs.
5.4L SOHC 525 lbs
4.6L DOHC Aluminum Block 425 lbs
5.4L DOHC 540 lbs
6.8L SOHC V-10 640 lbs.
The stock strut tower bar should work, but I would measure to make sure.
Exhaust-wise, you will probably have to use a shorty header as you have less clearance due to the wider stance of the engine. I know the 5.4 4V is 28 1/4" wide as opposed to the 4.6 4V's stance of 26 5/8"
You wont have to do much rigging. And if you keep the emissions equipment in tact and hooked up, you'll pass...
-Grimm
#14
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incorrect. MHS makes a very nice intake for the 5.4 for about 600-800 bucks. its a dyno proven 15-20~rwhp gain on an otherwise stock motor, not bad for under 800 bucks. i cant remember the last time i spent 800 on a bolton for my car that gave that kind of gain. but MOST people do not have to get a new hood with this intake.
incorrect again. ONE company currently does make longtube headers for the 5.4 swapped mustang and they have been for a while, but they are about 1000$.
nobody makes a 5.4 two valve intake that i know of besides logan and reinheart out of canada, i beleive thats how you spell it. Hps might never looked in to it. As far as your 1000.00 headers go, that are suppose to be in production, called that company at least 10 times over a one week period left mess. no one called me back at all not even once.
incorrect. MHS makes a very nice intake for the 5.4 for about 600-800 bucks. its a dyno proven 15-20~rwhp gain on an otherwise stock motor, not bad for under 800 bucks. i cant remember the last time i spent 800 on a bolton for my car that gave that kind of gain. but MOST people do not have to get a new hood with this intake.
incorrect again. ONE company currently does make longtube headers for the 5.4 swapped mustang and they have been for a while, but they are about 1000$.
#15
Sorry to place this here but it is kind of on subject. Why replace/change your engine? Why not just build the one you've got? You can bore it, do milling, head work, and put out some serious power. Maybe for not the same exact money but one thing you wont have to worry about is fitment issues. Anyway just my .02 worth.
#16
Originally Posted by mark a rittenhouse
nobody makes a 5.4 two valve intake that i know of besides logan and reinheart out of canada, i beleive thats how you spell it. Hps might never looked in to it. As far as your 1000.00 headers go, that are suppose to be in production, called that company at least 10 times over a one week period left mess. no one called me back at all not even once.
#17
Do you know the name of the company that makes the long tubes,and do you have there no.?I was told it was something like stp, and given there no. never could get a hold of anyone or no returned calls.(anybody?)
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