Originally Posted by stangalator

i want to get the hi-tech stage 2's, however, i would pick these because low end maters to me a lot, as its a DD. The 274's have a larger LSA and a huge drop in low end torque...

i am interested in how you car feels after the install though, please make another thread/ post on this after you install them and share

EDIT: oh, and does the hi-tech stage 2's have PTV issues like the 274's? would it mater that i have the 96-98 pistons vs the 99-04 pistons since they are dished more?

Originally Posted by stangalator

i want to get the hi-tech stage 2's, however, i would pick these because low end maters to me a lot, as its a DD. The 274's have a larger LSA and a huge drop in low end torque...

i am interested in how you car feels after the install though, please make another thread/ post on this after you install them and share

EDIT: oh, and does the hi-tech stage 2's have PTV issues like the 274's? would it mater that i have the 96-98 pistons vs the 99-04 pistons since they are dished more?

Originally Posted by 99BlackPonyGT

holy **** please tell me this was a joke....

Originally Posted by JayC

Actually I'm 2/3....my car has 4.10's and my wife drives an auto. lol

Originally Posted by 2000AZ5.0GT

if you honestly think your shortblock is going to last long spinning to 6500RPM, you're clinically insane.

Those powdered rod's wouldn't hold up to 6250RPM for very long. Your talking about close to another 1000RPM.

either way, have you even gone with any of these cams? or are you just talking out of your *** about what others have said and acting like you know everything at the same time??

20lbft down low is a big drop for the 274's, and coming from someone saying "oh no, they don't lose ANY low end torque", your showing you have zero idea what your talking about.

Custom cams are pretty much the best bed for ANY combo. Not just FI, but NA as well. I wouldn't touch an off the shelf cam to be truthful.

Oh, and actually guys, stalling has more to do with idle RPM, and the IAC than with the tune. My car comes damn close to stalling when I slow down. I don't remember if you can alter the decay rate of the IAC with a predator or SCT tuner, I know you can with sniper.

Originally Posted by mustangcat

4.10 gears in a Auto will greatly offset the difference between a stage II Cam and a stock cams with low end torque. GTRACER is right about that much, I guarantee it.

Originally Posted by 99BlackPonyGT

chill the ƒuck out, i was simply saying the same thing over again since you werent understanding what i was saying

go rev your stock headed 2v to 6500 consistently, ill make sure to bring you a bucket to carry around in your car so you can pick up your rods when they go on vacation through the block

Originally Posted by blackonblacksls

so the gears are gonna change the fact that your missing 20 or 30rwhp in the lower rpms...

a stall would help with the loss in low rpm power, not gears.

Originally Posted by mustangcat

I never said it would give you back power nor torque. I said it offsets the difference. Having 4.10's in a Auto is the difference between night and day for drivability. If you've ever used an automatic New Edge GT for a DD you know exactly what I'm talking about, the power down low, especially in first gear is abysmal. After I had my gears installed I was actually getting slightly better gas mileage in town because I wasn't having to give it a lot of throttle at stop lights or stop signs just to keep up with the flow of traffic.

Loss in power at low RPMs....Even without a stall I'm revving to 2000 RPM at the track at launch(whats the stock stall, 1600?) So when your looking at these 20-30 RWHP losses, look at 1600-2000 RPM, where the loss won't be so devastating.