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Old 01-04-2011, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cliffyk
It would perhaps distribute the load over a larger ares, however it would also allow movement--perhaps only microscopic levels--between the components.

The problem is not that the OEM spot welds are a bad way of doing it, just that they are too few and far between to accommodate loads that are far in excess of the design goals.

'Twas me I would just add simulated "spot" welds as described above (drill through one surface, then TIG the hole)--or grind through the "roll" at the mating surfaces and TIG the whole length of the joint...
Yeah, knowing what mustangs will be used for and how the 4-link works, they sure could have made the boxes a bit stronger.
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dwtjr3
but you wouldnt want to weld all the way around the torque box would you? because the torque box still has to move a little bit doesnt it? And what type of shops would do work like this?
It should not move at all relative to the body/chassis, what make you think it should?

Any competent welding shop should be able to do it, in fact a really competent shop may have better alternatives--I haven't done this crap in years. That said, there's not a bit of "rocket science" involved...
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:24 PM
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ok thank you and i did not think it was supposed to but since you was saying to spot weld instead of welding all the way around the torque box. Haha sorry stupid question i had a dumb moment, but thank you everyone for your advice ill have to look at mine and see if they started to crack yet or not but regardless i think ill just get it done anyways. Thank you
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dwtjr3
ok thank you and i did not think it was supposed to but since you was saying to spot weld instead of welding all the way around the torque box. Haha sorry stupid question i had a dumb moment, but thank you everyone for your advice ill have to look at mine and see if they started to crack yet or not but regardless i think ill just get it done anyways. Thank you
If you are going to be spending any considerable amount of time at the drag strip it is definitely a good idea. $100 in parts and a little elbow grease will help prevent you from needing serious repair in the event of the boxes actually separating from the body.
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Old 01-05-2011, 02:25 AM
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Also known as battle boxes are fairly easy to install. We bolted my buddies in. They work great. Eventually we re gona end up tacking them into place. Great investment if u ask me especially for you 4 speed guys because there is so much stress through the drivetrain when you dump the clutch. I will be doing some on my auto soon.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cliffyk
HF-TIG is the "finest kind" of weld, there is very little made of metal that cannot be welded with TIG, and the right gas and filler...
+1 the only b!tch with it is the metal has to be super clean unlike mig which should still be clean but its not as important.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dwtjr3
ok thank you and i did not think it was supposed to but since you was saying to spot weld instead of welding all the way around the torque box. Haha sorry stupid question i had a dumb moment, but thank you everyone for your advice ill have to look at mine and see if they started to crack yet or not but regardless i think ill just get it done anyways. Thank you
If your anywhere near me i can do them for you.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:59 AM
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98 how much would you charge? Welding is not an expertise of mine.
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by uberstang1
98 how much would you charge? Welding is not an expertise of mine.
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