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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Default Evolution debate ongoing.

Fred had cancelled the dyno day for today, due to sucky weather. (It hasn't stopped raining all day, and it's been rather cold.) So me and Dkano from the forums had already planned this and went despite all, because the shop would still be open, just wasn't open for a large crowd with all the festivities planned. (That is now scheduled for May 20th)

Now for the purpose of this thread... I was going to the shop in hopes of making 300RWHP with my Brenspeed tune, C&L Intake, and Off-road H-pipe. So as my car makes everyone deaf in the shop (and probably a 5 mile radius) the Mustang Dyno numbers are printed up and I'm shown with having 274.1 RWHP & 292.2 RWTQ. Needless to say I was fairly disappointed. (Although these are the numbers that did give me my 13.2 in the 1/4 on stock rubber.)

It was now turn for Fred's tune, (Which you can get by purchasing his SCT XCalibrator, and his combo prices are much cheaper then anyone else I believe.) Frankly, this would be the best bang for your buck. Fred loaded up the tunes to my SCT (With a $150 upgrade price for those of you wanting his tune. Sadly.) Onto the Dyno I went and the numbers were more of what I was expecting. 300.5RWHP & 317.1 RWTQ.

As far as performance is concerned I think you can clearly see the winner.
Brenspeed 274.1RWHP - 292.2RWTQ
Evolution 300.5RWHP - 317.1RWTQ

If by chance you are reading this Brent, I still think you have excellent service, and you're awesome... but... Evolution has you beat in this aspect (as well as price for combos). You win some, you lose some.

No harm meant.

12s, here we come.
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Quick question, did he just load the tune and test or did he make adjustments as he dyno'd it.
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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Default RE: Brenspeed vs Evolution debate ended.

From what Fred told me, there is no need to have your car "Dyno Tuned" with his tune. Though I don't know how fact or fiction that is... or if I just misinterputed what he had said.
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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which tune were you using from brenspeed, the 87, 91, or 93?
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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Default RE: Brenspeed vs Evolution debate ended.

To clarify... it was 93 tunes for both Brenspeed & Evolution.
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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**** I have the 93 tune from brenspeed!!!! lol...just curious, do you have to buy the XCAL itself with the tune in it already? or can you just buy the program that u can upload into it? whats the website for evolution?
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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Default RE: Brenspeed vs Evolution debate ended.

I'm not sure how Evolution's tune transfer works, but he'll probably just need your SCT to program over one of Brenspeed's tunes. So just a matter of sending him your tuner I would think, unless he can somehow e-mail them.
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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Wait a minute, you are putting down 300rwhp with CAI and Tuner and off road h-pipe? THats awesome!!
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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Default RE: Brenspeed vs Evolution debate ended.

Off-road H-pipe & SLP Loudmouths. Though the straight pipe design is actually making me lose power... so the next time I head over I'm getting resonators installed to give me some back pressure, which should pick up about 5-10 HP according to Fred.
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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Nice. Sorry I couldn't make it. Had "girlfriend plans" today. I ordered the brenspeed package, but I'm going to need a dyno tune anyway once I get the exhaust put on (went with a full Bassani package, everything but headers) so I will definitely head down there at some point in the near future.



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