331 stroker build
#21
RE: 331 stroker build
LOL I'm laughin...I think you guys scared him off....Grnstang, you want a 331 cool....before you spend money just look into something for me...check outFlow Tech Inductionssite, There are guys with stock blocks nice heads (AFR's 165's or whatever) a customcam...nice long tubes.That are breakin 11's makin about 305-315 tothe ground....if this is enough for you. Save your money on your bottom end put towards your top end and rip....just a thought.
#22
RE: 331 stroker build
I'm not sure about the earlier comment about a 347 having thin walls compared to a 331, aren't they both .030 over???. Anyways, choose whichever ci you want. People here speak from experience, and are just trying to be helpfull. If you contact Jay over at CI, he'll also tell you to never go 331, but go 347 (he never explained to me why?). I do agree with stanguy306, if your bottom end is in good shape, you can spend your money buying bolt on's, and have a very fast car, then save for the new short block. Good luck with your project keep us posted as to what you end up doing.
#24
RE: 331 stroker build
still NOT the point.... get off the topic of 347! and get ON topic with what the man asked for.... c'mon people
if you want a pissing match start it in a different thread of your own and leave your 347 bs out of his post
if you want a pissing match start it in a different thread of your own and leave your 347 bs out of his post
#25
RE: 331 stroker build
ORIGINAL: redpony88
pfsh 331 for the win
347's burn oil and will wear out before a 331, the 331 is a much more reliable motor espceially if it's a dd car plus you get a better rod angle so you get more revs
trust me i have one and i LOVE it, i would never go 347, i personally amnot a fan of THIN walls or oil burning
pfsh 331 for the win
347's burn oil and will wear out before a 331, the 331 is a much more reliable motor espceially if it's a dd car plus you get a better rod angle so you get more revs
trust me i have one and i LOVE it, i would never go 347, i personally amnot a fan of THIN walls or oil burning
ORIGINAL: redpony88
dont bully someone into something YOU dont even have done.....
if he wants a 331 LEAVE IT ALONE!!!! everyone doesnt have to do what you want them to do, it's his car NOT yours! i hated it when someone tried to tell me to get a 347 i had to tell him about 10 times i was NOT going 347 i just wanted my 331
dont bully someone into something YOU dont even have done.....
if he wants a 331 LEAVE IT ALONE!!!! everyone doesnt have to do what you want them to do, it's his car NOT yours! i hated it when someone tried to tell me to get a 347 i had to tell him about 10 times i was NOT going 347 i just wanted my 331
ORIGINAL: grnstang
thanks red pony 88...i'm going for the 331 because it is my daily driver in the summer. i will let you guys know what i decide to go with, thank you!!
thanks red pony 88...i'm going for the 331 because it is my daily driver in the summer. i will let you guys know what i decide to go with, thank you!!
#26
RE: 331 stroker build
look guys, i didnt read every pissing match post that was made.
i was in the same shoe as the origional poster. i went 331 b/c i heard of the oil burning and short life due to extra stroke.
took some time and talking to very respected names that i learned that the 347 has just a good of reputation as the 331 as far as oil consuption, reliability and life span.
my 331 has the same pistons as a 347, no oil burning.
how long do you think a motor that sees 6k rpms quite often going to last before it needs some maintance to keep it running top notch? rings and bearings and your almost good as new.
a 351 has more stroke than a 347, they last a long time.
look, i understand if you are still weary about the 347 vs the 331. just my 2 cents, i would have built a 347 instead if i could do it again.
either motor will be fun.
i was in the same shoe as the origional poster. i went 331 b/c i heard of the oil burning and short life due to extra stroke.
took some time and talking to very respected names that i learned that the 347 has just a good of reputation as the 331 as far as oil consuption, reliability and life span.
my 331 has the same pistons as a 347, no oil burning.
how long do you think a motor that sees 6k rpms quite often going to last before it needs some maintance to keep it running top notch? rings and bearings and your almost good as new.
a 351 has more stroke than a 347, they last a long time.
look, i understand if you are still weary about the 347 vs the 331. just my 2 cents, i would have built a 347 instead if i could do it again.
either motor will be fun.
#27
RE: 331 stroker build
I'd suggest going with AFR 165's or something along that linewith a decent cam, the bbk 70mm TBshould work well with the Trickflow intake.while your at it I'd boost up ur fuel supply....little bigger fuel pump w/ some 24# injectors. And I am working on building a 331 too, so dont sweat what everybody is saying Like Redpony88 said "Its your car" Best of luck
#28
RE: 331 stroker build
This guy is starting a build, a N/A build,a N/Anewcomer mistake build.
We know he wants the most power and a reliable engine for a daily driver.
Plenty of 331 owners, have wish they went 347 and we want to make sure he is happy, has a reliable motorand not touching this engine for at least another 10+ years.
So while the engine is out, thats the time to consider that option.
With modern technology, you'll need every cube to keep up, there is no replacement for displacement.
Ive been through several 331 setups personally
and will never go back.
We know he wants the most power and a reliable engine for a daily driver.
Plenty of 331 owners, have wish they went 347 and we want to make sure he is happy, has a reliable motorand not touching this engine for at least another 10+ years.
So while the engine is out, thats the time to consider that option.
With modern technology, you'll need every cube to keep up, there is no replacement for displacement.
Ive been through several 331 setups personally
and will never go back.
#29
RE: 331 stroker build
I don't think it's fair to assume he wants the "most power" for a daily driver. There are plenty of people out there that know their limitations of what they can and cannot safely handle. He will not be the first nor the last person to spend an equal amount of money to knowingly build a smaller, weaker motor with less performance. If he just wants to pick on the N/A 306 guys, he's doing the right thing.
#30
RE: 331 stroker build
There is a time and a place for a 306.
There is a time and a place for a 331.
There is a time and a place for a 347.
Not all stroker kits are $725. If you start throwing out nicer forged pistons, rod bolt upgrades, dish or dome pistons (not FT), then it can get up there.
If I was to build an N/A engine, I would go 4.125" bore x 3.400" (typical 347 crankshaft) stroke.
There is some basis to rod ratio, but any of the engines above is not anything to worry about in consideration to the R/S ratio.
I see misinformation and off-topic junk on both sides of this argument so far.
Good Luck!
There is a time and a place for a 331.
There is a time and a place for a 347.
Not all stroker kits are $725. If you start throwing out nicer forged pistons, rod bolt upgrades, dish or dome pistons (not FT), then it can get up there.
If I was to build an N/A engine, I would go 4.125" bore x 3.400" (typical 347 crankshaft) stroke.
There is some basis to rod ratio, but any of the engines above is not anything to worry about in consideration to the R/S ratio.
I see misinformation and off-topic junk on both sides of this argument so far.
Good Luck!