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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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I would get a dart block
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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Two guys in my club bought DSS short blocks and one blew up just after 500 mile break in and the other blew up at about the 1200 mile. I would not buy a DSS!
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Making 800 is pretty serious. If it were me and price was no object I would start over fresh with everything new and sell what's in the car now. World products also makes a good block. Why stick with 302-306 cubic inch? If you are going to get an aftermarket block go for the gusto and make it a big bore 347 (4.125 bore 3.25 stroke) or a 363 (4.125 bore 3.40 stroke). Dart or World both sell short deck blocks (you can use your intake and headers you already have)with a 4.125 bore to help ease the 800rwhp making process. I don't know what's in the current engine but I would invest in some really good pistons (Ross, Wiseco, JE, Venolia, etc.), crank (Sonny Bryant, Carrilo, etc.)and rods (Oliver, Carrilo, Callies, etc.). I know people on here don't like them, but how many of them have bought their stuff, but contact DSS, CHP, Kieth Craft, etc and ask about what you are trying to do. What heads and camshaft are you using now? Leaving it a 302-306, you are going to have to put a bunch of boost and rpm on that thing to make thatkind of power.
What's involved with getting bored and stroked? My main reason for not wanting to do it is because (1) I want to be able to use all the parts that are on it currently, and I know you guys are going to laugh, but (2) I want to get semi decent gas mileage.

Here's the current list of mods.

1988 Twin turbocharged 500hp Mustang GT Street/Strip Car... Fresh 5.0 shortblock forged and balanced, edelbrock aluminum heads part # 6037 ported/polished, edelbrock performer RPM intake manifold with phenolinic spacer, ed curtis custom turbo cam, cloyes double roller timing chain, Crane roller rocker arms, 42lb. injectors, cartech 1/2 fuel rails, kirban race fuel pressure regulator, 1/2 fuel lines, 255 in tank pump with t-rex, MSD billet distributer, MSD 6BTM ignition with boost retard, MSD 8.8 super conductor wires, new alternator and starter, chrome pulleys, billet-flamed valve covers and wire looms, all billet march power steering and alternator brackets, chrome summit waterpump and chrome waterneck, welded in subframe connectors, 75mm accufab throttle polished, CnL 76mm mass air meter, fluid filled harmonic balancer/dampner, 3 row aluminum radiator, dual oil-filter relocation kit polished, braided lines, t-5 tranny with spec stage 3 clutch, MAC 1-3/4" headers, 2-1/2inch h-pipe and magnum mufflers, Garret twin t3-t04b hybrids ported to 57mm compressor wheels.(.48AR), Custom dual scavenge tanks with twin tilton differential pumps by MIPerformance, 17"chrome cobras wheels, new tires, cobra grillinsert, headlights/taillights and fog lamps are all smoked to match the PPG 2004 Lamborghini silver paint, harwood cowl hood, autometer sport comp- 5"monster tach, oil press, water temp ,fuel press, air/fuel ratio, and boost guage. Black recaro racing seats, indiglo guage faces, billet switch in the ash tray for the line-loc, electric fan, aluminum battery box-rear relocated to trunk area, new carpet and headliner ,clarion CD player with eclipse 6-1/2's, pro 5.0 shifter with carbon fiber ****, lakewood drag struts 70/30,l akewood drag shocks 50/50, eibach drag launch springs with air bag, southside machine liftbars, 3.27's, aluminum driveshaft, lakewood safety loop, QA-1 tubular k-member. Dynoed by Mustang Magic to 420rwhp and 452ft.-lbs.torque at a conservative 7psi with much more available,
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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yea im not gonna buy any DSS ****... we have a dss 331 in the shop now and it spun a bearing in a matter of hours (circle track car... they broke it in and put a few laps on it and it ****ed up).... looking at the internals, its dissapointing... not great quality at all
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:50 PM
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Ya' know... the problem with stuff now a days is you can't go through a normal day without using something that says made in china!! that's whay half the crap we buy doesn't last long[:'(]
Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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you shoulda seen the rotating ***. it was a bunch of chinese ****[&:]
Old Feb 9, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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jman, a 347 n/a street/strip car if your easy on it can get close to 20mpg with not to steep of gears and a mild cam.
Old Feb 9, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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jman, a 347 n/a street/strip car if your easy on it can get close to 20mpg with not to steep of gears and a mild cam.
Thats good. But the other problem, will my existing heads/intake/exhuast and all the other parts on the car fit? I still can't get a straight answer. Some guys are saying that everything bolts right up, some are saying that I'll need a new lower intake and headers. I do not want to get into it and find out I need to replace half of the stuff that's currently on the car. Plus, with twins it wouldn't be too hard to up the boost from 7 psi to 14-15 psi after the shortblock is built at the same displacement and get 700 horsepower that way.
Old Feb 9, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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Ive asked this question before and the answer I always got was something like this. "302 parts are still gonna be 302 parts"
Old Feb 9, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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yes al ur **** will fit on a 347, its the same block stroked


yea 302 parts make 302 power... but the blower changes that
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