Dispatching rumors
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Posts: 3,427
From: CA
RE: Dispatching rumors
ORIGINAL: ldstang50
There have been posts about the GT500 and how 'slow' it is. People 'arguing' over its weight and final drive ratio.
M&T just did a really good write up on it. I like M&T better than R&T and slightly more than C&D. They seem to be more american car based than the other two (IMO). Plus they also seem to have slightly better times in testing, I'll contribute that to better driving.
Some of this stuff you might know already some you might not.
Here's what we got.
90deg s/c v8, iron block aluminum heads, DOHC 4v/c
8.4:1 compression
5.4L, (4.6 on steroids...15mm longer stroke) so it is NOT the lightning block i guess????
255/18 up front, 285/18 in the rear
live axle with a 3.31 rear end (same as auto gt)
BIG brakes 14in front 11.8 rear
very very heavy 3944lbs
weight distribution 57f/43r
stats
0-60 4.5
0-100 9.6
1/4mi 12.7@116.92g
69.7 slalom
handling is awesome for a live axle car
$42,670 as tested
base of $41,950
Tranny is a t6060 6spd, latest version t56
triple synchro first and second gears
first gear is 2.97:1
clutch 215mm Valeo twin disc cerametallic
No where near z06 territory, but then again its 30k cheaper.
The 500 is just about on par with a c6 and for slightly cheaper.
M&T did a side test with it against the charger srt8 and gto. Obviously it won.
The car has a good trap. With a set of stickies on it, she'll go very low 12s if not high 11s. I'm sure a rear end swap with stickies will show 11s easily.
IMO Ford did their homework with the car. I don't think its the best looking Mustang, but it has really good straight line performance. But for a 2ton car it handles exceptionally well. .92 on the skidpad!!! and almost 70mph in the slalom. All this with a live axle!!
There have been posts about the GT500 and how 'slow' it is. People 'arguing' over its weight and final drive ratio.
M&T just did a really good write up on it. I like M&T better than R&T and slightly more than C&D. They seem to be more american car based than the other two (IMO). Plus they also seem to have slightly better times in testing, I'll contribute that to better driving.
Some of this stuff you might know already some you might not.
Here's what we got.
90deg s/c v8, iron block aluminum heads, DOHC 4v/c
8.4:1 compression
5.4L, (4.6 on steroids...15mm longer stroke) so it is NOT the lightning block i guess????
255/18 up front, 285/18 in the rear
live axle with a 3.31 rear end (same as auto gt)
BIG brakes 14in front 11.8 rear
very very heavy 3944lbs
weight distribution 57f/43r
stats
0-60 4.5
0-100 9.6
1/4mi 12.7@116.92g
69.7 slalom
handling is awesome for a live axle car
$42,670 as tested
base of $41,950
Tranny is a t6060 6spd, latest version t56
triple synchro first and second gears
first gear is 2.97:1
clutch 215mm Valeo twin disc cerametallic
No where near z06 territory, but then again its 30k cheaper.
The 500 is just about on par with a c6 and for slightly cheaper.
M&T did a side test with it against the charger srt8 and gto. Obviously it won.
The car has a good trap. With a set of stickies on it, she'll go very low 12s if not high 11s. I'm sure a rear end swap with stickies will show 11s easily.
IMO Ford did their homework with the car. I don't think its the best looking Mustang, but it has really good straight line performance. But for a 2ton car it handles exceptionally well. .92 on the skidpad!!! and almost 70mph in the slalom. All this with a live axle!!
+1!
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Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,427
From: CA
RE: Dispatching rumors
ORIGINAL: ldstang50
There have been posts about the GT500 and how 'slow' it is. People 'arguing' over its weight and final drive ratio.
M&T just did a really good write up on it. I like M&T better than R&T and slightly more than C&D. They seem to be more american car based than the other two (IMO). Plus they also seem to have slightly better times in testing, I'll contribute that to better driving.
Some of this stuff you might know already some you might not.
Here's what we got.
90deg s/c v8, iron block aluminum heads, DOHC 4v/c
8.4:1 compression
5.4L, (4.6 on steroids...15mm longer stroke) so it is NOT the lightning block i guess????
255/18 up front, 285/18 in the rear
live axle with a 3.31 rear end (same as auto gt)
BIG brakes 14in front 11.8 rear
very very heavy 3944lbs
weight distribution 57f/43r
stats
0-60 4.5
0-100 9.6
1/4mi 12.7@116.92g
69.7 slalom
handling is awesome for a live axle car
$42,670 as tested
base of $41,950
Tranny is a t6060 6spd, latest version t56
triple synchro first and second gears
first gear is 2.97:1
clutch 215mm Valeo twin disc cerametallic
No where near z06 territory, but then again its 30k cheaper.
The 500 is just about on par with a c6 and for slightly cheaper.
M&T did a side test with it against the charger srt8 and gto. Obviously it won.
The car has a good trap. With a set of stickies on it, she'll go very low 12s if not high 11s. I'm sure a rear end swap with stickies will show 11s easily.
IMO Ford did their homework with the car. I don't think its the best looking Mustang, but it has really good straight line performance. But for a 2ton car it handles exceptionally well. .92 on the skidpad!!! and almost 70mph in the slalom. All this with a live axle!!
There have been posts about the GT500 and how 'slow' it is. People 'arguing' over its weight and final drive ratio.
M&T just did a really good write up on it. I like M&T better than R&T and slightly more than C&D. They seem to be more american car based than the other two (IMO). Plus they also seem to have slightly better times in testing, I'll contribute that to better driving.
Some of this stuff you might know already some you might not.
Here's what we got.
90deg s/c v8, iron block aluminum heads, DOHC 4v/c
8.4:1 compression
5.4L, (4.6 on steroids...15mm longer stroke) so it is NOT the lightning block i guess????
255/18 up front, 285/18 in the rear
live axle with a 3.31 rear end (same as auto gt)
BIG brakes 14in front 11.8 rear
very very heavy 3944lbs
weight distribution 57f/43r
stats
0-60 4.5
0-100 9.6
1/4mi 12.7@116.92g
69.7 slalom
handling is awesome for a live axle car
$42,670 as tested
base of $41,950
Tranny is a t6060 6spd, latest version t56
triple synchro first and second gears
first gear is 2.97:1
clutch 215mm Valeo twin disc cerametallic
No where near z06 territory, but then again its 30k cheaper.
The 500 is just about on par with a c6 and for slightly cheaper.
M&T did a side test with it against the charger srt8 and gto. Obviously it won.
The car has a good trap. With a set of stickies on it, she'll go very low 12s if not high 11s. I'm sure a rear end swap with stickies will show 11s easily.
IMO Ford did their homework with the car. I don't think its the best looking Mustang, but it has really good straight line performance. But for a 2ton car it handles exceptionally well. .92 on the skidpad!!! and almost 70mph in the slalom. All this with a live axle!!
Before they start worrying about the new z06 they have to take out the old C5 Z06.
Those sorry *** magazine guys were able to squeeze out 0-60 in 4.1secs and 12.4 in the quarter mile out of the C5 z06.
I do not think this car will be faster than the C6 stock either. The C6 is slightly slower than the C5 Z06. But if I know the ford fans like I think I do, this car will be driven off the dealership lot and strait to the modd shop to change the pulley.
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Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,197
From: Louisiana
RE: Dispatching rumors
ORIGINAL: MrRogers
But if I know the ford fans like I think I do, this car will be driven off the dealership lot and strait to the modd shop to change the pulley.
But if I know the ford fans like I think I do, this car will be driven off the dealership lot and strait to the modd shop to change the pulley.
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Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 12,575
From: United States
RE: Dispatching rumors
who honestly goes out and buys a 45K+ car and takes it to the circut track though??
I just can't see taking out my new shelby and trying to road race in it with a bunch of morons in mid 90s miatas and older mustangs/camaros. This includes my car too
45K and you slam it into the wall org et hit, and the insurance company laughs at you and gives ya the finger.
I don't think too many people have enough cash to not worry about that but will still be buying the shelbly, but I could be wrong.
BTW, the best part about both the shelby and the 03/04 was the total ease of modification. I think you really have to factor that into the car. There is simply nothing else out there that can be so easily modified to make such big numbers.
I just can't see taking out my new shelby and trying to road race in it with a bunch of morons in mid 90s miatas and older mustangs/camaros. This includes my car too
45K and you slam it into the wall org et hit, and the insurance company laughs at you and gives ya the finger.
I don't think too many people have enough cash to not worry about that but will still be buying the shelbly, but I could be wrong.
BTW, the best part about both the shelby and the 03/04 was the total ease of modification. I think you really have to factor that into the car. There is simply nothing else out there that can be so easily modified to make such big numbers.
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,248
From: NC
RE: Dispatching rumors
ORIGINAL: MrRogers
Before they start worrying about the new z06 they have to take out the old C5 Z06.
Those sorry *** magazine guys were able to squeeze out 0-60 in 4.1secs and 12.4 in the quarter mile out of the C5 z06.
I do not think this car will be faster than the C6 stock either. The C6 is slightly slower than the C5 Z06. But if I know the ford fans like I think I do, this car will be driven off the dealership lot and strait to the modd shop to change the pulley.
ORIGINAL: ldstang50
There have been posts about the GT500 and how 'slow' it is. People 'arguing' over its weight and final drive ratio.
M&T just did a really good write up on it. I like M&T better than R&T and slightly more than C&D. They seem to be more american car based than the other two (IMO). Plus they also seem to have slightly better times in testing, I'll contribute that to better driving.
Some of this stuff you might know already some you might not.
Here's what we got.
90deg s/c v8, iron block aluminum heads, DOHC 4v/c
8.4:1 compression
5.4L, (4.6 on steroids...15mm longer stroke) so it is NOT the lightning block i guess????
255/18 up front, 285/18 in the rear
live axle with a 3.31 rear end (same as auto gt)
BIG brakes 14in front 11.8 rear
very very heavy 3944lbs
weight distribution 57f/43r
stats
0-60 4.5
0-100 9.6
1/4mi 12.7@116.92g
69.7 slalom
handling is awesome for a live axle car
$42,670 as tested
base of $41,950
Tranny is a t6060 6spd, latest version t56
triple synchro first and second gears
first gear is 2.97:1
clutch 215mm Valeo twin disc cerametallic
No where near z06 territory, but then again its 30k cheaper.
The 500 is just about on par with a c6 and for slightly cheaper.
M&T did a side test with it against the charger srt8 and gto. Obviously it won.
The car has a good trap. With a set of stickies on it, she'll go very low 12s if not high 11s. I'm sure a rear end swap with stickies will show 11s easily.
IMO Ford did their homework with the car. I don't think its the best looking Mustang, but it has really good straight line performance. But for a 2ton car it handles exceptionally well. .92 on the skidpad!!! and almost 70mph in the slalom. All this with a live axle!!
There have been posts about the GT500 and how 'slow' it is. People 'arguing' over its weight and final drive ratio.
M&T just did a really good write up on it. I like M&T better than R&T and slightly more than C&D. They seem to be more american car based than the other two (IMO). Plus they also seem to have slightly better times in testing, I'll contribute that to better driving.
Some of this stuff you might know already some you might not.
Here's what we got.
90deg s/c v8, iron block aluminum heads, DOHC 4v/c
8.4:1 compression
5.4L, (4.6 on steroids...15mm longer stroke) so it is NOT the lightning block i guess????
255/18 up front, 285/18 in the rear
live axle with a 3.31 rear end (same as auto gt)
BIG brakes 14in front 11.8 rear
very very heavy 3944lbs
weight distribution 57f/43r
stats
0-60 4.5
0-100 9.6
1/4mi 12.7@116.92g
69.7 slalom
handling is awesome for a live axle car
$42,670 as tested
base of $41,950
Tranny is a t6060 6spd, latest version t56
triple synchro first and second gears
first gear is 2.97:1
clutch 215mm Valeo twin disc cerametallic
No where near z06 territory, but then again its 30k cheaper.
The 500 is just about on par with a c6 and for slightly cheaper.
M&T did a side test with it against the charger srt8 and gto. Obviously it won.
The car has a good trap. With a set of stickies on it, she'll go very low 12s if not high 11s. I'm sure a rear end swap with stickies will show 11s easily.
IMO Ford did their homework with the car. I don't think its the best looking Mustang, but it has really good straight line performance. But for a 2ton car it handles exceptionally well. .92 on the skidpad!!! and almost 70mph in the slalom. All this with a live axle!!
Before they start worrying about the new z06 they have to take out the old C5 Z06.
Those sorry *** magazine guys were able to squeeze out 0-60 in 4.1secs and 12.4 in the quarter mile out of the C5 z06.
I do not think this car will be faster than the C6 stock either. The C6 is slightly slower than the C5 Z06. But if I know the ford fans like I think I do, this car will be driven off the dealership lot and strait to the modd shop to change the pulley.
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Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,427
From: CA
RE: Dispatching rumors
ORIGINAL: WRXtranceformed
I've heard the C6 is slightly faster than the C5 Z06. I also saw a couple of random strip racing videos which confirmed this. ..
ORIGINAL: MrRogers
Before they start worrying about the new z06 they have to take out the old C5 Z06.
Those sorry *** magazine guys were able to squeeze out 0-60 in 4.1secs and 12.4 in the quarter mile out of the C5 z06.
I do not think this car will be faster than the C6 stock either. The C6 is slightly slower than the C5 Z06. But if I know the ford fans like I think I do, this car will be driven off the dealership lot and strait to the modd shop to change the pulley.
ORIGINAL: ldstang50
There have been posts about the GT500 and how 'slow' it is. People 'arguing' over its weight and final drive ratio.
M&T just did a really good write up on it. I like M&T better than R&T and slightly more than C&D. They seem to be more american car based than the other two (IMO). Plus they also seem to have slightly better times in testing, I'll contribute that to better driving.
Some of this stuff you might know already some you might not.
Here's what we got.
90deg s/c v8, iron block aluminum heads, DOHC 4v/c
8.4:1 compression
5.4L, (4.6 on steroids...15mm longer stroke) so it is NOT the lightning block i guess????
255/18 up front, 285/18 in the rear
live axle with a 3.31 rear end (same as auto gt)
BIG brakes 14in front 11.8 rear
very very heavy 3944lbs
weight distribution 57f/43r
stats
0-60 4.5
0-100 9.6
1/4mi 12.7@116.92g
69.7 slalom
handling is awesome for a live axle car
$42,670 as tested
base of $41,950
Tranny is a t6060 6spd, latest version t56
triple synchro first and second gears
first gear is 2.97:1
clutch 215mm Valeo twin disc cerametallic
No where near z06 territory, but then again its 30k cheaper.
The 500 is just about on par with a c6 and for slightly cheaper.
M&T did a side test with it against the charger srt8 and gto. Obviously it won.
The car has a good trap. With a set of stickies on it, she'll go very low 12s if not high 11s. I'm sure a rear end swap with stickies will show 11s easily.
IMO Ford did their homework with the car. I don't think its the best looking Mustang, but it has really good straight line performance. But for a 2ton car it handles exceptionally well. .92 on the skidpad!!! and almost 70mph in the slalom. All this with a live axle!!
There have been posts about the GT500 and how 'slow' it is. People 'arguing' over its weight and final drive ratio.
M&T just did a really good write up on it. I like M&T better than R&T and slightly more than C&D. They seem to be more american car based than the other two (IMO). Plus they also seem to have slightly better times in testing, I'll contribute that to better driving.
Some of this stuff you might know already some you might not.
Here's what we got.
90deg s/c v8, iron block aluminum heads, DOHC 4v/c
8.4:1 compression
5.4L, (4.6 on steroids...15mm longer stroke) so it is NOT the lightning block i guess????
255/18 up front, 285/18 in the rear
live axle with a 3.31 rear end (same as auto gt)
BIG brakes 14in front 11.8 rear
very very heavy 3944lbs
weight distribution 57f/43r
stats
0-60 4.5
0-100 9.6
1/4mi 12.7@116.92g
69.7 slalom
handling is awesome for a live axle car
$42,670 as tested
base of $41,950
Tranny is a t6060 6spd, latest version t56
triple synchro first and second gears
first gear is 2.97:1
clutch 215mm Valeo twin disc cerametallic
No where near z06 territory, but then again its 30k cheaper.
The 500 is just about on par with a c6 and for slightly cheaper.
M&T did a side test with it against the charger srt8 and gto. Obviously it won.
The car has a good trap. With a set of stickies on it, she'll go very low 12s if not high 11s. I'm sure a rear end swap with stickies will show 11s easily.
IMO Ford did their homework with the car. I don't think its the best looking Mustang, but it has really good straight line performance. But for a 2ton car it handles exceptionally well. .92 on the skidpad!!! and almost 70mph in the slalom. All this with a live axle!!
Before they start worrying about the new z06 they have to take out the old C5 Z06.
Those sorry *** magazine guys were able to squeeze out 0-60 in 4.1secs and 12.4 in the quarter mile out of the C5 z06.
I do not think this car will be faster than the C6 stock either. The C6 is slightly slower than the C5 Z06. But if I know the ford fans like I think I do, this car will be driven off the dealership lot and strait to the modd shop to change the pulley.
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RE: Dispatching rumors
ORIGINAL: ThisBlood147
You all have to remember that Ford set the MSRP at the low 40's mark. It's not their fault how much the dealerships gouge ppl for them. This is a 40K car with 500bhp....pretty remarkable I think. My main issue with Ford on this matter is still why they didn't mine the aluminum block 5.4 for this car. I think that alone could have made the GT500 much deadlier than it may end up being.
That being said, I'd still prefer to invest money into a stock S197 GT rather than a GT500. They can be made much faster for less money. I consider that I'm at 460bhp in a car that weighs 3630 with me in it.....and I have to wonder if I would even have to worry about a GT500 if one came alongside me on the street[8D]
You all have to remember that Ford set the MSRP at the low 40's mark. It's not their fault how much the dealerships gouge ppl for them. This is a 40K car with 500bhp....pretty remarkable I think. My main issue with Ford on this matter is still why they didn't mine the aluminum block 5.4 for this car. I think that alone could have made the GT500 much deadlier than it may end up being.
That being said, I'd still prefer to invest money into a stock S197 GT rather than a GT500. They can be made much faster for less money. I consider that I'm at 460bhp in a car that weighs 3630 with me in it.....and I have to wonder if I would even have to worry about a GT500 if one came alongside me on the street[8D]
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Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,197
From: Louisiana
RE: Dispatching rumors
ORIGINAL: nanaki
most people can't buy a brand new car like that in cash. usually when you buy a car, you're going to finance it. no bank is going to give you 42k for a 27k GT.
ORIGINAL: ThisBlood147
You all have to remember that Ford set the MSRP at the low 40's mark. It's not their fault how much the dealerships gouge ppl for them. This is a 40K car with 500bhp....pretty remarkable I think. My main issue with Ford on this matter is still why they didn't mine the aluminum block 5.4 for this car. I think that alone could have made the GT500 much deadlier than it may end up being.
That being said, I'd still prefer to invest money into a stock S197 GT rather than a GT500. They can be made much faster for less money. I consider that I'm at 460bhp in a car that weighs 3630 with me in it.....and I have to wonder if I would even have to worry about a GT500 if one came alongside me on the street[8D]
You all have to remember that Ford set the MSRP at the low 40's mark. It's not their fault how much the dealerships gouge ppl for them. This is a 40K car with 500bhp....pretty remarkable I think. My main issue with Ford on this matter is still why they didn't mine the aluminum block 5.4 for this car. I think that alone could have made the GT500 much deadlier than it may end up being.
That being said, I'd still prefer to invest money into a stock S197 GT rather than a GT500. They can be made much faster for less money. I consider that I'm at 460bhp in a car that weighs 3630 with me in it.....and I have to wonder if I would even have to worry about a GT500 if one came alongside me on the street[8D]
