Dispatching rumors
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RE: Dispatching rumors
Once again my friend the base curb weight for a '03 ZO6 is 3118lbs and base curb weight for a C6 coupe is 3179 lbs. both gearing ratios between C5 ZO6 and C6 Z51 are almost identical. To make a long story short Yes I agree the C5 ZO6 is SLIGHTLY faster but I've never heard of a race between "identical " drivers and a difference in weight of 60lbs (heck one guy in a ZO6 could weigh 200lbs and a C6 guy could weigh 140lbs now your looking at identical weights) is'nt a huge difference. Also remember C5 ZO6's have been around longer so theres more track data availible on a C5 ZO6. I've spoken to a member on the Vette forum that has ran his to a 12.3. So once again it's a drivers race between these two cars.
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ORIGINAL: MrRogers
The C6 is 1/10 of a second slower than a C5ZO6 which in my opinion does not mean diddly ****. And I also know Vettes. The greater disparity is in handling and with a Z51 C6 it's again a drivers race.
Actualy it's a bit slower than 1/10 of a second. Most people look at the GM's estimates--C6 400hp C5 Z06 405hp and think that they are just about even. But the truth lies in the stock dyno comparisons.. The Z06 adverages 15-20 more RWHP than the C6. The suspension is much better IMO. What realy puts the Z06 over the top is the low weight. The Z06's thinner windshield, lighter battery and titanium exhaust support weight savings. Also equiped with a carbon-fiber hood, the beast weighs in at 3074 pounds--with half a tank of gas! The damn thing hits high 11's and very low 12's stock.
This is what makes the Z06 faster than a C6.
The C6 is 1/10 of a second slower than a C5ZO6 which in my opinion does not mean diddly ****. And I also know Vettes. The greater disparity is in handling and with a Z51 C6 it's again a drivers race.
Actualy it's a bit slower than 1/10 of a second. Most people look at the GM's estimates--C6 400hp C5 Z06 405hp and think that they are just about even. But the truth lies in the stock dyno comparisons.. The Z06 adverages 15-20 more RWHP than the C6. The suspension is much better IMO. What realy puts the Z06 over the top is the low weight. The Z06's thinner windshield, lighter battery and titanium exhaust support weight savings. Also equiped with a carbon-fiber hood, the beast weighs in at 3074 pounds--with half a tank of gas! The damn thing hits high 11's and very low 12's stock.
This is what makes the Z06 faster than a C6.
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RE: Dispatching rumors
ORIGINAL: Grn N Gry 5OH
ok u 2 'Vette guys........the Z51 package...can you get it on the (C6)Z06, or JUST the C6 ??
and one of you said what, its just a suspension package, correct ?
ok u 2 'Vette guys........the Z51 package...can you get it on the (C6)Z06, or JUST the C6 ??
and one of you said what, its just a suspension package, correct ?
but in answer to your question, the z51 suspension is an option on the regular vette, not the z06
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From: VA
RE: Dispatching rumors
ORIGINAL: ldstang50
if you could get the z51 package on the z06, why would you? the z06 suspension is much better.
but in answer to your question, the z51 suspension is an option on the regular vette, not the z06
ORIGINAL: Grn N Gry 5OH
ok u 2 'Vette guys........the Z51 package...can you get it on the (C6)Z06, or JUST the C6 ??
and one of you said what, its just a suspension package, correct ?
ok u 2 'Vette guys........the Z51 package...can you get it on the (C6)Z06, or JUST the C6 ??
and one of you said what, its just a suspension package, correct ?
but in answer to your question, the z51 suspension is an option on the regular vette, not the z06
and by your responses/info, im guessing youre one of those guys who likes everything, arent ya ?? have u seen the new AMS EVO vid ?? 988awhp. their new record...its on streetfire. heheh. its BAAAD
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From: CA
RE: Dispatching rumors
ORIGINAL: C6 VETTE
Once again my friend the base curb weight for a '03 ZO6 is 3118lbs and base curb weight for a C6 coupe is 3179 lbs. both gearing ratios between C5 ZO6 and C6 Z51 are almost identical. To make a long story short Yes I agree the C5 ZO6 is SLIGHTLY faster but I've never heard of a race between "identical " drivers and a difference in weight of 60lbs (heck one guy in a ZO6 could weigh 200lbs and a C6 guy could weigh 140lbs now your looking at identical weights) is'nt a huge difference. Also remember C5 ZO6's have been around longer so theres more track data availible on a C5 ZO6. I've spoken to a member on the Vette forum that has ran his to a 12.3. So once again it's a drivers race between these two cars.
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Once again my friend the base curb weight for a '03 ZO6 is 3118lbs and base curb weight for a C6 coupe is 3179 lbs. both gearing ratios between C5 ZO6 and C6 Z51 are almost identical. To make a long story short Yes I agree the C5 ZO6 is SLIGHTLY faster but I've never heard of a race between "identical " drivers and a difference in weight of 60lbs (heck one guy in a ZO6 could weigh 200lbs and a C6 guy could weigh 140lbs now your looking at identical weights) is'nt a huge difference. Also remember C5 ZO6's have been around longer so theres more track data availible on a C5 ZO6. I've spoken to a member on the Vette forum that has ran his to a 12.3. So once again it's a drivers race between these two cars.
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ORIGINAL: MrRogers
The C6 is 1/10 of a second slower than a C5ZO6 which in my opinion does not mean diddly ****. And I also know Vettes. The greater disparity is in handling and with a Z51 C6 it's again a drivers race.
Actualy it's a bit slower than 1/10 of a second. Most people look at the GM's estimates--C6 400hp C5 Z06 405hp and think that they are just about even. But the truth lies in the stock dyno comparisons.. The Z06 adverages 15-20 more RWHP than the C6. The suspension is much better IMO. What realy puts the Z06 over the top is the low weight. The Z06's thinner windshield, lighter battery and titanium exhaust support weight savings. Also equiped with a carbon-fiber hood, the beast weighs in at 3074 pounds--with half a tank of gas! The damn thing hits high 11's and very low 12's stock.
This is what makes the Z06 faster than a C6.
The C6 is 1/10 of a second slower than a C5ZO6 which in my opinion does not mean diddly ****. And I also know Vettes. The greater disparity is in handling and with a Z51 C6 it's again a drivers race.
Actualy it's a bit slower than 1/10 of a second. Most people look at the GM's estimates--C6 400hp C5 Z06 405hp and think that they are just about even. But the truth lies in the stock dyno comparisons.. The Z06 adverages 15-20 more RWHP than the C6. The suspension is much better IMO. What realy puts the Z06 over the top is the low weight. The Z06's thinner windshield, lighter battery and titanium exhaust support weight savings. Also equiped with a carbon-fiber hood, the beast weighs in at 3074 pounds--with half a tank of gas! The damn thing hits high 11's and very low 12's stock.
This is what makes the Z06 faster than a C6.
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RE: Dispatching rumors
ORIGINAL: Grn N Gry 5OH
ahh. gotcha. i didnt kno that. thanks.
and by your responses/info, im guessing youre one of those guys who likes everything, arent ya ?? have u seen the new AMS EVO vid ?? 988awhp. their new record...its on streetfire. heheh. its BAAAD
ORIGINAL: ldstang50
if you could get the z51 package on the z06, why would you? the z06 suspension is much better.
but in answer to your question, the z51 suspension is an option on the regular vette, not the z06
ORIGINAL: Grn N Gry 5OH
ok u 2 'Vette guys........the Z51 package...can you get it on the (C6)Z06, or JUST the C6 ??
and one of you said what, its just a suspension package, correct ?
ok u 2 'Vette guys........the Z51 package...can you get it on the (C6)Z06, or JUST the C6 ??
and one of you said what, its just a suspension package, correct ?
but in answer to your question, the z51 suspension is an option on the regular vette, not the z06
and by your responses/info, im guessing youre one of those guys who likes everything, arent ya ?? have u seen the new AMS EVO vid ?? 988awhp. their new record...its on streetfire. heheh. its BAAAD
i wouldn't necesarily say i like everything. like most here, i can't stand ricers. heck i call my self a rice sometimes. I have a big wing an stickers, but then again, i do have some power to back it up. i respect fast cars and people that know how to drive them.
I don't like highway racing (no surprise coming from an evo owner). but there's no skill involved. mash the gas and go.
i try to know a little about everything. i read up on most of the forums and read lots of magazines. i used to own an 87gt that i road raced.
there's no sense of going to a forum where you 'don't belong' and trying to start ****.
i'm not here to argue with anyone. just stating what i know to inform people that might not and learning.
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RE: Dispatching rumors
ORIGINAL: ldstang50
ya i've seen it. its nasty. i was at a shop yesterday in CT where they had 3 500+whp evo's and thats not counting al friedman's car which was there also, he's gone 9.97 in his evo.
i wouldn't necesarily say i like everything. like most here, i can't stand ricers. heck i call my self a rice sometimes. I have a big wing an stickers, but then again, i do have some power to back it up. i respect fast cars and people that know how to drive them.
I don't like highway racing (no surprise coming from an evo owner). but there's no skill involved. mash the gas and go.
i try to know a little about everything. i read up on most of the forums and read lots of magazines. i used to own an 87gt that i road raced.
i'm not here to argue with anyone. just stating what i know to inform people that might not and learning.
ya i've seen it. its nasty. i was at a shop yesterday in CT where they had 3 500+whp evo's and thats not counting al friedman's car which was there also, he's gone 9.97 in his evo.
i wouldn't necesarily say i like everything. like most here, i can't stand ricers. heck i call my self a rice sometimes. I have a big wing an stickers, but then again, i do have some power to back it up. i respect fast cars and people that know how to drive them.
I don't like highway racing (no surprise coming from an evo owner). but there's no skill involved. mash the gas and go.
i try to know a little about everything. i read up on most of the forums and read lots of magazines. i used to own an 87gt that i road raced.
i'm not here to argue with anyone. just stating what i know to inform people that might not and learning.
nobody likes ricers. at least you have power to back up your stickers and "big wing" though. ricers dont. they have stickers, big wings, and no need for 'em. and roll racing sucks. period !!!
what'd u have done to your GT ?? like engine wise ? suspension setup, etc, etc. i dont see any problems with you. you seem cool. i was just stating what i saw/thought about you. thats all.
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ORIGINAL: Grn N Gry 5OH
i saw the vid last night, and my jaw dropped. i knew the car was fast b4, and now theyve upped the hp. i mean, really, when do they stop ?? 3 500+awhp EVO's in one shop...thats insane.
nobody likes ricers. at least you have power to back up your stickers and "big wing" though. ricers dont. they have stickers, big wings, and no need for 'em. and roll racing sucks. period !!!
what'd u have done to your GT ?? like engine wise ? suspension setup, etc, etc. i dont see any problems with you. you seem cool. i was just stating what i saw/thought about you. thats all.
ORIGINAL: ldstang50
ya i've seen it. its nasty. i was at a shop yesterday in CT where they had 3 500+whp evo's and thats not counting al friedman's car which was there also, he's gone 9.97 in his evo.
i wouldn't necesarily say i like everything. like most here, i can't stand ricers. heck i call my self a rice sometimes. I have a big wing an stickers, but then again, i do have some power to back it up. i respect fast cars and people that know how to drive them.
I don't like highway racing (no surprise coming from an evo owner). but there's no skill involved. mash the gas and go.
i try to know a little about everything. i read up on most of the forums and read lots of magazines. i used to own an 87gt that i road raced.
i'm not here to argue with anyone. just stating what i know to inform people that might not and learning.
ya i've seen it. its nasty. i was at a shop yesterday in CT where they had 3 500+whp evo's and thats not counting al friedman's car which was there also, he's gone 9.97 in his evo.
i wouldn't necesarily say i like everything. like most here, i can't stand ricers. heck i call my self a rice sometimes. I have a big wing an stickers, but then again, i do have some power to back it up. i respect fast cars and people that know how to drive them.
I don't like highway racing (no surprise coming from an evo owner). but there's no skill involved. mash the gas and go.
i try to know a little about everything. i read up on most of the forums and read lots of magazines. i used to own an 87gt that i road raced.
i'm not here to argue with anyone. just stating what i know to inform people that might not and learning.
nobody likes ricers. at least you have power to back up your stickers and "big wing" though. ricers dont. they have stickers, big wings, and no need for 'em. and roll racing sucks. period !!!
what'd u have done to your GT ?? like engine wise ? suspension setup, etc, etc. i dont see any problems with you. you seem cool. i was just stating what i saw/thought about you. thats all.
my gt was pretty slow.
eibach 2.5" dropped springs, kyb gas adjustable struts, fms camber plates, 8.8 rear with 3.53s, rear pan hard bar, front upper and lower tower brace, sub frame connectors, 8pt cage, mac headers, off road h pipe, flowmaster 3 chambers, hurst shifter, intake, throttle body, 24lb injectors, underdrive pulleys, ac removed, fluidyne radiator, electrical fan, ummmm there are a few more things, but my dad sold it bout 4yrs ago when i was in japan with the military.
fortunately he sold it to a friend. he's rebuilt it with a 306, cam, cobra upper and lower intake, pistons rods etc
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ORIGINAL: ThisBlood147
I was just speaking in theoretical dollar terms nanaki. If I had 45-60K laying around the house somewhere I'd rather fully deck out a GT than spend it on a car that will weigh 2 tons and only run mid 12's off the lot. But I see your point also, I just wasn't going into that much realism with my comment. Because let's face it........i can't afford a GT500 OR 25K in mods to my GT.[:@]
ORIGINAL: nanaki
you said you'd rather get a new GT than a GT500 cause they can be made faster for less money. unless you're paying for the car in cash, you don't have that extra money on hand. i can't afford to buy a new cobra in cash for 45k or something. i can't buy a brand new GT for 27k and have that extra 18k left over to make a GT faster faster than a cobra. get it?
you said you'd rather get a new GT than a GT500 cause they can be made faster for less money. unless you're paying for the car in cash, you don't have that extra money on hand. i can't afford to buy a new cobra in cash for 45k or something. i can't buy a brand new GT for 27k and have that extra 18k left over to make a GT faster faster than a cobra. get it?
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here's a pic of her way back when. i was at limerock racing. thats my little bro wearin the helmet
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