smashed another 96' Z28...
#41
RE: smashed another 96' Z28...
Since I am one of the resident LS1 guys here i guess I'll offer some opinions and real-world observations.
1. A properly driven '03 Cobra will whoop any LS1 fbody. Period. I know this from experience. Same track, same day, comparable drivers, '03 Cobra beats LS1. It is simply a much more powerful engine. Well-driven '03 Cobras typically run high 12's, LS1 fbods run low to mid 13's.
2. The N/A 5.7L LS6 will take out the blown 4.6, but ZO6's are a little pricey, so that's not really fair.
3. Comparing the '03 Cobra to an LS1 is really not fair for two reasons: price and model year. '03 Cobras new started around $34k, LS1 fbods (up to '02) for around $24k. Also, when comparing cars it is only fair to compare like model years. An '02 LS1 will take out a more expensive '02 Cobra. This I also know from experience.
4. If the '05 GT runs low 13's I will eat my K&N filter.
I'm not trying to bash Mustangs at all (me want '03 Cobra NOW [sm=icon_flaming.gif] ), just trying to use what I've learned and observed to help sift through some of these confusing arguments. Hope this helps.
1. A properly driven '03 Cobra will whoop any LS1 fbody. Period. I know this from experience. Same track, same day, comparable drivers, '03 Cobra beats LS1. It is simply a much more powerful engine. Well-driven '03 Cobras typically run high 12's, LS1 fbods run low to mid 13's.
2. The N/A 5.7L LS6 will take out the blown 4.6, but ZO6's are a little pricey, so that's not really fair.
3. Comparing the '03 Cobra to an LS1 is really not fair for two reasons: price and model year. '03 Cobras new started around $34k, LS1 fbods (up to '02) for around $24k. Also, when comparing cars it is only fair to compare like model years. An '02 LS1 will take out a more expensive '02 Cobra. This I also know from experience.
4. If the '05 GT runs low 13's I will eat my K&N filter.
I'm not trying to bash Mustangs at all (me want '03 Cobra NOW [sm=icon_flaming.gif] ), just trying to use what I've learned and observed to help sift through some of these confusing arguments. Hope this helps.
#42
RE: smashed another 96' Z28...
I agree with everything fully except for number 1. as an average sure, an 03 cobra will beat an LS1 stock for stock (if you can call it that since one is FI) but I have seen stock LS1's run 12.8's and 12.9's and I have seen stock 03 cobras run 13.5's and 13.1's all in the same day. There are always exceptions but to say that an 03 will "smoke" any LS1 is a blanket staement that will not hold up. I will agree that most times the cobra will pull it off but that doesn;t mean that they will always win or even that they will win by a "smoking" distence. I fail to see where 1. or .2 is considered smoking but anywho. If an 05 GT runs low 13's I will also eat my K&N and wash it down with some of the finest gear oil I can find.
#44
RE: smashed another 96' Z28...
dood you need help. an 00 cobra isn;t even as fast as an 00 fbody let alone a damn Z06.
edit thats not even a regular cobra but a cobra R which unless I am totaly mistaken is no where near teh same thing
edit thats not even a regular cobra but a cobra R which unless I am totaly mistaken is no where near teh same thing
#46
RE: smashed another 96' Z28...
here is your 00 cobra... http://www.mysticcobra.net/00spec.shtml
0-60 mph: 5.4 seconds
0-100 kph: 5.6 seconds
Quarter Mile: 13.8 seconds @ 102 mph
Top Speed: 150 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 127 ft.
100 ft. Skidpad: 0.90g
now please tell me again that it will run with a 00 Z06.
0-60 mph: 5.4 seconds
0-100 kph: 5.6 seconds
Quarter Mile: 13.8 seconds @ 102 mph
Top Speed: 150 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 127 ft.
100 ft. Skidpad: 0.90g
now please tell me again that it will run with a 00 Z06.
#47
RE: smashed another 96' Z28...
Cobra R vs Cobra is what you guys are arguing about.
2000 Cobra R = true beast, 5.4 DOHC, 385 horses (what 90mustangfan referred to)
Cobra = beast, 4.6 DOHC, 320 horses (what 96lt1 referred to)
U both are right, rejoice!
2000 Cobra R = true beast, 5.4 DOHC, 385 horses (what 90mustangfan referred to)
Cobra = beast, 4.6 DOHC, 320 horses (what 96lt1 referred to)
U both are right, rejoice!