Meanwhile, Ferrari is making 520hp out of its new F430 CS from a 4.3L V8.

 

The exhaust on the C6 Z06 is top notch. The air flows as much as it wants too. And you can't beat the sound, which in person sounds like 15' subwoofer playing aconstant base tone during idle. Up at high speeds the car sounds more likea powerboat.Only thingyou would need is a pair of slicks to do 10s ina Z06. But CAI, headers and a good tune should get you there without slicks. Or you could just slap a Cam in the LS7 and make a fast car stupid fast... The options are there...

 

But if performance was your only concern there is no Mercedes or Porsche that could match it for anywhere near $100k.It would take a SLR Mclaren[about $400k] or a RUF Porsche[don't know how much but damn expensive] to stay with it,and idk if the SLR would stay with it.

 

imtoo lazy to read this whole thread...but i have seen this car in person several over the last few months, and finally saw a finished product yesterday at the NAIAS...not much to see of the base model...not much has changed physically aside from the hood...however it would be interesting to see them make that grey concept...

as much as i hate to admit it, the vette may still have the better deal with the price of the two cars.

also, i see so many people making comments about how awful vipers run at the track...and while this may be true, theyve never seen a GOOD viper driver. ive been to a few viper drag events...and the "mod viper" class, which requires them to run the V10 (some people swap to big hemis), and there were guys running all sorts of FI, and time ranged from 8s to 10s in that class..and the stock class guys were in the low 11s and a few in the 12s (1st gen).

much like a supra or terminator, if the viper is built to be a dyno queen, it will do just that...but a well built car, like a terminator or supra, has amazing potential.

 

Hopefully another good point about the Vette SS is that they might stop or put a smaller mark-up on the ZO6, now that they have an even higher performance car. Also i dont see what the downing of the interiors are all about, the interiors are pretty darn nice, and you get more roomy interior and a trunk. As mentioned before, for 100k you will get nothing anywhere close to what the new Vette SS is going to be performance wise. 650bhp, 2900 lbs, supercharged on probably only 6lbs of boost(i am guessing). Do exhaust, cai, pulley swap, and tune. And i bet this new car will see over 700rwhp. A 700rwhp, 2900lbs car would be nearly unbeatable. All of that for $103,000. While that is a lot of money, it sure isnt a lot for that car and type of performance from a factory built car, brand new and compared to everything else, it is just utterly amazing. All i gotta say is come on GM give us a blown Camaro of some kind.

 

From everything I've heard GM is not worried about the new Viper. GM expects to beat it in not only sales, (1700 vipers a year) but performance with just their standard Z06 (based on that sales figure they've probably sold more Z06's than vipers in almost 2 years). One was a GM engineer and a few other people who go to all the new shows. Somehow they think that the 600 hp isn't going to help much. Something about the 300 + weight disadvantage advantage and the fact that even with exact same hp #'s the Vette still one ups the Viper as does many cars with similar or less hp. Maybe they are GM leg humpers, who knows but the general concensus between the GM flanks is that the 600 hp Viper is not that big a threat. Obviously the 675 hp "tuned" viper will be more than the stock Z06 can handle, but if a Z06 with nothing but a cam and headers can make 600 surely a 150 hp bump from FI and almost 200 lbs less will make even that "tuned viper"choke on its 8.4 liters. The tuned viper also will be an up version of the normal viper and will probably still be more expensive than the new uber vette. If only 1700 people bought a viper last year maybe 1/3rd will buy the uber viper? My bet it will be in less numbers and higher priced than a better performing uber vette. IMO.

 

so Ranger(aka very verygooddriver evencompared to other pros)breaks into the 10's with only slicks after 50 or so passes now that's all you need to run 10's in a c6 z06....yeah rightmind you the 1 and only c6 z06 i've ever personally witnessed at the track ran a best of 12.30's and was usually in the mid 12's....this is at sea level and a very well prepped track. he seemed to shift wellbut i don't knowwhat herpm'setc he was leaving at...i didn't get a chance to talk to him.please take yours to the track roger and show us what you can do with it so you don't have to quote Ranger's times ever time you get the chance[8D]

 

I AGREE!!! Come to Fontana with me tomorrow! (You have PM waiting btw)

 

Here we go again...Ranger is not the only one to hit 10s in the Z06 with slicks. I'll give him credit he is a great driver but it's not impossible. You bash me for quoting one mans track time and then you turn around and do the same thing because some horrible driver was only able to 12.3? (C5 Z06 territory I might add) Oh and here is another question for you while we are on the subject...When in the hell have I ever mentioned Rangers times before? Or better yet when have I even mentioned Ranger? You have me confused son,go back to the drawing board and try again. LOL I got to be honest with you guys, I'm not really a track loving guy. Hell when I first got me C5 Z I was there all the time. But as time progressed I got bored with it and decided to reak havoc in the streets. Nowthat i'm moddedit's really not going to have any significance because i'll never know how good of a driver I truly could be...The Vette is not stock any more...

 

who gives a ****? Its still slower than a Z06 by a longshot, as well as the ford GT. I dont give a damn how a car makes power, as long as it makes it and the curve is good.

Thats such a ricer thing to say. "My s2000 makes 100hp per liter." "Yeah well youre gay because thats still only 200hp".