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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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and most of the 10 second fox's you see have spent about 10k, which includes the price of the car.
Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Yeah, and five liters or six liters or seven liters is a hell of a lot more than 2 ilters.
Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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How about the EVO VIII MR FQ400. That is a truly amazing car for only having 2 liters. In an episode of Top Gear, the British supercar show, it beat an AWD V10 Murcielago around the track.

The specs:
400 hp / 355 lb/ft of torque
Curb weight 3240
0-60: 3.5s
0-100: 9.1s
Top speed: 175!

AND it comes with the factory warranty from Mitsubishi! I think it only gets like 8 mpg though hah. Have to buy it over in Britain as well, or have it imported here.


Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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Boost is the answer, in theory, each 15# of boost doubles HP.
Also keep in mind "stock" internals for some cars are forged and the 4 cylinder block is strong.
The limitation on "stock" internals for mustang is because Ford chose to use cheaper parts. The "stock" 03 Cobra has forged internals and should be okay to make near 1000 HP.
That seems contraditory to some things I've heard. 1000 horse on stock internals?
Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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more potential in muscle cars
Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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Not every car needs boost to be fast.

There's quite a few B series DOHC swapped EG (92-95) Civic hatches on Honda-tech running 11s NA.

Full bolt ons, engine swap, suspension, tires. They'll cross the line well within the 11 second mark quite easily. Everyone simply underestimates a car here. That's how.
Old Dec 14, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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Not every car needs boost to be fast.

There's quite a few B series DOHC swapped EG (92-95) Civic hatches on Honda-tech running 11s NA.

Full bolt ons, engine swap, suspension, tires. They'll cross the line well within the 11 second mark quite easily. Everyone simply underestimates a car here. That's how.
i'm sure it can be done but i haven't seen any N/A 4cyls run faster than 13s' yet. one of my buddys swaped a H22 engine in his 91 accord, it has all the bolt-ons imaginable and he had the heads ported. he talked alot of smack while he was doing the set-up and after it was done. he took me for a ride and i have to admitt i was a bit nervous about the race but when he finally got a chance to run it at the track he was almost a whole second slower than me (14.9 was his best time) he shut the hell up pretty quickly after that now he's working on a turbo set-up though[] i'm hoping my H/C/I set-up will still whoop him when we take them back out next summer.
Old Dec 14, 2005 | 03:05 AM
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DURH, turbo+Vtek ownz the Skr33tz.

Seriously, turbo is what does it. As to how a damn supra can get up to 1100 hp and more on stock internals is beyond me. Can anyone explain??????????????????????
1100hp on stock internals is well into "break something" range. They can handle a good 800 or so at 6800 RPMs with any kind of reliability. Remember that it's an engine built for a twin-turbo and comes with forged internals. Nevertheless it's a bit of a freak from the factory.

ORIGINAL: angcobra

Boost is the answer, in theory, each 15# of boost doubles HP.
Also keep in mind "stock" internals for some cars are forged and the 4 cylinder block is strong.
The limitation on "stock" internals for mustang is because Ford chose to use cheaper parts. The "stock" 03 Cobra has forged internals and should be okay to make near 1000 HP.
They're good to about 725rwhp at 7000 RPMS with any kind of reliability. I've heard that the piston to cylinder wall clearance is too tight to push much more for any extended period of time.
Old Dec 14, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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I dunno about stock internals... but the damn japs took a lesson from the italians on the cars.

Small cylinders, lots of valves, very high revs.

Having a car with lets say... a 5.0 liter v8 is really not the best perfomance option... look at F1 cars, running 2.4 liter v-8s and 3.0 liter v-10s for hundreds of miles making over 900 horsepower

Huge displacements really arent efficient... the downfalls are just made up with... huge displacement. Take a look at motorcycle engines... they're making almost 180 horsepower out of 1000 cc's. That's 61 cubic inches. Or almost 3 horsepower per cubic inch. Take that, put it against a stock 5.0 L mustang... and we dont even make 1 hp to the cubic inch.

Small cylinders, lots of valves, very high revs.



it might just be me, but i want to see ford come out with a small 3.5 or 4.0 L v8 or v10 with a redline around 9k rpm and stick it in something...



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