Compound Boost Setup
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Get the **** over it, lol...
Oh really? Son, my car gets it's e85 tune tomorrow, but as it sits right now, it has a 91 octane tune and I'd still put money on that I'd whoop your lil tush on it's ***** setting! Hell on 91 octane, with a 10.2 AFR and 12 degrees of timing, it put down 690... If we had leaned it out and added another couple of degrees, ON 91, it would have made over 700. We'll see how it does tomorrow on the e85 tune. And not only am I making more peak HP than you, I'll have a must flatter hp/tq curve. Talk about a fun street car!
Oh really? Son, my car gets it's e85 tune tomorrow, but as it sits right now, it has a 91 octane tune and I'd still put money on that I'd whoop your lil tush on it's ***** setting! Hell on 91 octane, with a 10.2 AFR and 12 degrees of timing, it put down 690... If we had leaned it out and added another couple of degrees, ON 91, it would have made over 700. We'll see how it does tomorrow on the e85 tune. And not only am I making more peak HP than you, I'll have a must flatter hp/tq curve. Talk about a fun street car!
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There was once a guy who put a working jet engine in the back of his F150. He drove it around on the 5.4L, but fired the jet engine up at different shows and took it down the track. It wasn't fast, it wasn't efficient, and despite being an aeronautical engineer, wasn't necessarily the most effective way to make a jet powered vehicle, but putting a 2000hp badge on the side of his truck, and just the thrill and excitement of having a huge jet engine in the truck bed, was more than enough reason to make it stand out in the crowd, and obviously be magazine material.
That said, there's a lot of parallels to using a compound boost setup. I've seen it used in King of the Street events and make pretty impressive numbers, and although I don't know much about it, it obviously does have some down falls. But, so do all power adders. Although there may be definitive power adders that create the most power or have the most bang for the buck, we never seem to see a trend in owners putting on a variety of different parts. Some people sware by centrifugal superchargers, some twin screw, single turbos, twin turbos, long tube headers, shorties, X-Pipe or H-Pipe, certain brands, blah blah blah, and we've all seen certain vehicles with certain setups that always seem to come in the lead. Problem is, as more people migrate to the "most" efficient, "most" powerful setup for a specific scenario, it becomes more and more common. And in a crowd where being different is the key to success (well, if you're looking for an all around track/show car especially), finding another solution to reach a specific point is really the only way to guarantee you have something unlike all the other guys at the strip and if you can win a few races while you're at it, more kudos to you.
I'm not saying that compound boost is the best solution, and in all honesty, even if I had endless pockets of cash, I probably still wouldn't head in that direction, but that's not because I don't think it's an interesting perspective in performance, but more so, because it doesn't fit the style or goals I have for my car. My car is unique in different ways, so if I did have the money, I'd go all turbo (I purchased my car with the Vortech already installed, but a forged short block will be in it next week)...but again, it's all a matter of perspective.
At the same time though, it's important as a poster to read and consider what's been posted. I can't vouch for anything here as I don't have the knowledge, but if someone warns that a specific setup could cause expensive damage (this goes to anybody posting on the forums), you should take the information and consider it. Obviously, DarkDigital at this point is certain his setup will be safe, reliable, and have good drivability. Until his car is finished, no one really knows for sure...there's really too many variables to give an outcome with any build (to a degree, some people's builds are doomed from the start), but if he has the money to replace something if it breaks, I'm actually curious to see the end results. As for those that believe he is doomed, he has been warned, and there's not much you can do beyond that. Either way, should be unique, and pretty quick too if all goes as planned. Note: I didn't say the quick"est", just pretty quick.
That said, there's a lot of parallels to using a compound boost setup. I've seen it used in King of the Street events and make pretty impressive numbers, and although I don't know much about it, it obviously does have some down falls. But, so do all power adders. Although there may be definitive power adders that create the most power or have the most bang for the buck, we never seem to see a trend in owners putting on a variety of different parts. Some people sware by centrifugal superchargers, some twin screw, single turbos, twin turbos, long tube headers, shorties, X-Pipe or H-Pipe, certain brands, blah blah blah, and we've all seen certain vehicles with certain setups that always seem to come in the lead. Problem is, as more people migrate to the "most" efficient, "most" powerful setup for a specific scenario, it becomes more and more common. And in a crowd where being different is the key to success (well, if you're looking for an all around track/show car especially), finding another solution to reach a specific point is really the only way to guarantee you have something unlike all the other guys at the strip and if you can win a few races while you're at it, more kudos to you.
I'm not saying that compound boost is the best solution, and in all honesty, even if I had endless pockets of cash, I probably still wouldn't head in that direction, but that's not because I don't think it's an interesting perspective in performance, but more so, because it doesn't fit the style or goals I have for my car. My car is unique in different ways, so if I did have the money, I'd go all turbo (I purchased my car with the Vortech already installed, but a forged short block will be in it next week)...but again, it's all a matter of perspective.
At the same time though, it's important as a poster to read and consider what's been posted. I can't vouch for anything here as I don't have the knowledge, but if someone warns that a specific setup could cause expensive damage (this goes to anybody posting on the forums), you should take the information and consider it. Obviously, DarkDigital at this point is certain his setup will be safe, reliable, and have good drivability. Until his car is finished, no one really knows for sure...there's really too many variables to give an outcome with any build (to a degree, some people's builds are doomed from the start), but if he has the money to replace something if it breaks, I'm actually curious to see the end results. As for those that believe he is doomed, he has been warned, and there's not much you can do beyond that. Either way, should be unique, and pretty quick too if all goes as planned. Note: I didn't say the quick"est", just pretty quick.
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There was once a guy who put a working jet engine in the back of his F150. He drove it around on the 5.4L, but fired the jet engine up at different shows and took it down the track. It wasn't fast, it wasn't efficient, and despite being an aeronautical engineer, wasn't necessarily the most effective way to make a jet powered vehicle, but putting a 2000hp badge on the side of his truck, and just the thrill and excitement of having a huge jet engine in the truck bed, was more than enough reason to make it stand out in the crowd, and obviously be magazine material.
That said, there's a lot of parallels to using a compound boost setup. I've seen it used in King of the Street events and make pretty impressive numbers, and although I don't know much about it, it obviously does have some down falls. But, so do all power adders. Although there may be definitive power adders that create the most power or have the most bang for the buck, we never seem to see a trend in owners putting on a variety of different parts. Some people sware by centrifugal superchargers, some twin screw, single turbos, twin turbos, long tube headers, shorties, X-Pipe or H-Pipe, certain brands, blah blah blah, and we've all seen certain vehicles with certain setups that always seem to come in the lead. Problem is, as more people migrate to the "most" efficient, "most" powerful setup for a specific scenario, it becomes more and more common. And in a crowd where being different is the key to success (well, if you're looking for an all around track/show car especially), finding another solution to reach a specific point is really the only way to guarantee you have something unlike all the other guys at the strip and if you can win a few races while you're at it, more kudos to you.
I'm not saying that compound boost is the best solution, and in all honesty, even if I had endless pockets of cash, I probably still wouldn't head in that direction, but that's not because I don't think it's an interesting perspective in performance, but more so, because it doesn't fit the style or goals I have for my car. My car is unique in different ways, so if I did have the money, I'd go all turbo (I purchased my car with the Vortech already installed, but a forged short block will be in it next week)...but again, it's all a matter of perspective.
At the same time though, it's important as a poster to read and consider what's been posted. I can't vouch for anything here as I don't have the knowledge, but if someone warns that a specific setup could cause expensive damage (this goes to anybody posting on the forums), you should take the information and consider it. Obviously, DarkDigital at this point is certain his setup will be safe, reliable, and have good drivability. Until his car is finished, no one really knows for sure...there's really too many variables to give an outcome with any build (to a degree, some people's builds are doomed from the start), but if he has the money to replace something if it breaks, I'm actually curious to see the end results. As for those that believe he is doomed, he has been warned, and there's not much you can do beyond that. Either way, should be unique, and pretty quick too if all goes as planned. Note: I didn't say the quick"est", just pretty quick.
That said, there's a lot of parallels to using a compound boost setup. I've seen it used in King of the Street events and make pretty impressive numbers, and although I don't know much about it, it obviously does have some down falls. But, so do all power adders. Although there may be definitive power adders that create the most power or have the most bang for the buck, we never seem to see a trend in owners putting on a variety of different parts. Some people sware by centrifugal superchargers, some twin screw, single turbos, twin turbos, long tube headers, shorties, X-Pipe or H-Pipe, certain brands, blah blah blah, and we've all seen certain vehicles with certain setups that always seem to come in the lead. Problem is, as more people migrate to the "most" efficient, "most" powerful setup for a specific scenario, it becomes more and more common. And in a crowd where being different is the key to success (well, if you're looking for an all around track/show car especially), finding another solution to reach a specific point is really the only way to guarantee you have something unlike all the other guys at the strip and if you can win a few races while you're at it, more kudos to you.
I'm not saying that compound boost is the best solution, and in all honesty, even if I had endless pockets of cash, I probably still wouldn't head in that direction, but that's not because I don't think it's an interesting perspective in performance, but more so, because it doesn't fit the style or goals I have for my car. My car is unique in different ways, so if I did have the money, I'd go all turbo (I purchased my car with the Vortech already installed, but a forged short block will be in it next week)...but again, it's all a matter of perspective.
At the same time though, it's important as a poster to read and consider what's been posted. I can't vouch for anything here as I don't have the knowledge, but if someone warns that a specific setup could cause expensive damage (this goes to anybody posting on the forums), you should take the information and consider it. Obviously, DarkDigital at this point is certain his setup will be safe, reliable, and have good drivability. Until his car is finished, no one really knows for sure...there's really too many variables to give an outcome with any build (to a degree, some people's builds are doomed from the start), but if he has the money to replace something if it breaks, I'm actually curious to see the end results. As for those that believe he is doomed, he has been warned, and there's not much you can do beyond that. Either way, should be unique, and pretty quick too if all goes as planned. Note: I didn't say the quick"est", just pretty quick.
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Now this is not directed toward anybody here or in reference to the compound boost argument, but I want to comment on the unique argument.. thats what the v6 section says all the time and you know what they end up with... a unreliable POS that makes half the power of what they could have had for the same money. IMO uniqueness must take a back seat to logic.
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Now this is not directed toward anybody here or in reference to the compound boost argument, but I want to comment on the unique argument.. thats what the v6 section says all the time and you know what they end up with... a unreliable POS that makes half the power of what they could have had for the same money. IMO uniqueness must take a back seat to logic.
Oh and one more thing, aren't some of the faster GT500s out there running a compound boost set-up?
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