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Old 09-23-2006, 07:59 AM
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Automakers should stop or limit what Dealers can mark-up cars. To me a fair mark-up would be a limit of $5000 on any brand or model. Less mark-up = more vehicles sold !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-23-2006, 08:22 AM
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That's why I arm my self with some research before I buy a car. Always find out the dealer's cost and negotiate from there. Even when a dealer sells you a car at cost, he's making money by not having to pay taxes, dealer's hold back, etc. But, you to remember that its a business and they have to make some dough. When I purchased my Stang and told the sellman that he was going to make money out of me...how much? That was what we were going to negotiate.
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Old 09-23-2006, 10:07 AM
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Lol. Everyone must really want one of these new cobras.
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Old 09-23-2006, 11:12 AM
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The prices the GT500's are selling for are NUTS! 10K and more over sticker. These are nice cars BUT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE RARE! Ford will keep cranking them out as long as they sell, prices will eventually fall bringing more buyers into the market. A few years ago it was the Mach and Cobra, go on E-Bay, those cars sold way over sticker can now be had with low miles for half of what they sold for new. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 09-23-2006, 11:31 AM
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So, we are into Socialism are we?

It's pretty clear that you guys are not aware of something called Antitrust Laws. If Ford or any company were to tamper in the markup structure of their distributors, or if the distributors get together and decide what they will charge, they would be in violation of antitrust laws.

This the USA where we have free enterprise. If someone can get a million times what they paid for something then that's simply supply and demand.

As far as the Shelby goes, IF Ford actually builds 10,000 of them as they have said, then you will see the price come down before too long. Supply and demand is what makes the system work. Don't fight it. Would you like someone to come along and tell you that you must limit what you charge for something that you sell or have for sale? This experiment was tried in the USSR for about 50 years and didn't work.
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Old 09-23-2006, 11:32 AM
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So, we are into Socialism are we?

It's pretty clear that you guys are not aware of something called Antitrust Laws. If Ford or any company were to tamper in the markup structure of their distributors, or if the distributors get together and decide what they will charge, they would be in violation of antitrust laws.

This the USA where we have free enterprise. If someone can get a million times what they paid for something then that's simply supply and demand.

As far as the Shelby goes, IF Ford actually builds 10,000 of them as they have said, then you will see the price come down before too long. Supply and demand is what makes the system work. Don't fight it. Would you like someone to come along and tell you that you must limit what you charge for something that you sell or have for sale? This experiment was tried in the USSR for about 50 years and didn't work.
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Old 09-23-2006, 11:49 AM
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There is no contract on prices between the Automaker and dealship. They set their own prices based on their market and area competetion. You might see Shelby prices drop when Camero comes to life. One local guy is adding 3,000 for a standard 07 GT!
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Old 09-23-2006, 12:26 PM
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The title of this thread is true enough though the OP's contention is lost on me. Price is simply of a function of supply and demand.
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Old 09-23-2006, 01:01 PM
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ORIGINAL: Tri C

The title of this thread is true enough though the OP's contention is lost on me. Price is simply of a function of supply and demand.
Demand would be alot higher if there wasn't so many greedy dealers and fools that pay $20,000 over sticker just to say I have one. I personally do not want a Shelby GT500 but other people might but can' t afford these ridiculous price mark-ups. I also agree that these cars will not be worth enormous amounts of money in the future because of production numbers being high and also because there will be so many put away as an investment that you' ll still have your choice of low mileage cars down the road.
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Old 09-23-2006, 01:19 PM
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The title of this thread is true enough though the OP's contention is lost on me. Price is simply of a function of supply and demand.
This is true but there seems to be more to it when dealers are involved for some reason.
For example, I took a look at an 07 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT (don't worry, I came to my senses!)
and when it came time to talk about price the salesman gives me this crap about "they sell themselves, we can't keep them in stock etc. Yea right. A quick look at the lot shows a ton of these things and nobody buy my wife and I at the dealership.

Now after 30 years of haggling with dealers, I know how it's done so I see right through this boob but still,
Mistsi. is in serious trouble in the USA and they may pull out of the US car market all together if sales don't pick up in the next year or two.

So why the overpriced cars?
Why the hard sell?

And Ford and GM are no different although I would say that DMC is a wee bit better because they have some serious discounts on their cars at various times of the year.

I just don't get it.
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