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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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just a quick comment about venting the pressure build up under the hood...
Cowl induction in classic muscle cars took advantage of the "high pressure" area around the windshield. You know how when you pull your interior vents on a classic you get outside air? Ever wonder where it comes from? That grill at the base of your windshield...
So that brings me to my thought... if you are installing a vent anywhere near the cowl will it be most effective or will the venting be negated by the already high pressure area? Fender vents seem more logical, or maybe vents more toward the front or middle of the hood (sort of like a ram-air scoop turned backwards...
I understand that the windshield on newer cars it raked quite a bit more than classic cars, so the "high pressure" effect at the cowl might be lessoned... but I'm no expert.

Just food for thought. Cowl vents may look cool, and if that's what you want, go for it. If you want functional, we should ask some design/aerodynaic type people...

Rick
Old May 12, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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He did not log the install with photographs, just took pictures of the final install. He did all the work himself. Looks like it came out pretty nice.
Here is the thread
05GT's Procharger Install

hawgman : I took a look at those pic other day.. but only 3 pics of the superchager installed.. thats not going to cut it.. thats like watching a porno and only seeing the money shot .. I need the how to instructions.. the meat and potatos.. hahaha
Old May 12, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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new picture of the hood








[IMG]local://upfiles/2224/1E95BFB66DCD44C3B8DFB27B9061A376.jpg[/IMG]

OK.. I want that hood.. but I have a few questions..

1) how long is that deal going to last? I'm hurting for moeny now.. but I do want it
2) if its cramming in air like mad how good will it vent back out
3) I dont see any where to put the winshield nozels(sp) to spray the water

--thanks
Old May 13, 2005 | 01:57 AM
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hawgman : I took a look at those pic other day.. but only 3 pics of the superchager installed.. thats not going to cut it.. thats like watching a porno and only seeing the money shot .. I need the how to instructions.. the meat and potatos.. hahaha
I hear ya man.. Sorry, that's the only ones he posted. But on the bright side he did say it only took about 7 hours to install himself with no help and he was taking his time doing it.
Old May 13, 2005 | 02:04 AM
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just a quick comment about venting the pressure build up under the hood...
Cowl induction in classic muscle cars took advantage of the "high pressure" area around the windshield. You know how when you pull your interior vents on a classic you get outside air? Ever wonder where it comes from? That grill at the base of your windshield...
So that brings me to my thought... if you are installing a vent anywhere near the cowl will it be most effective or will the venting be negated by the already high pressure area? Fender vents seem more logical, or maybe vents more toward the front or middle of the hood (sort of like a ram-air scoop turned backwards...
I understand that the windshield on newer cars it raked quite a bit more than classic cars, so the "high pressure" effect at the cowl might be lessoned... but I'm no expert.

Just food for thought. Cowl vents may look cool, and if that's what you want, go for it. If you want functional, we should ask some design/aerodynaic type people...

Rick
Actually, those are all very good points. The entire reason for the hood instability that has been experienced is because of the amount of air entering the engine compartment vs. the amount of air that is able to be pushed out of the engine compartment. Everyone that has experienced the hood issue has said that it is happening at the back portion of the hood toward the windshield. Ever wonder why not all of the honeycombs in the grille are open? There is a ton of air that flows through the front grille of these cars.Thus the reason for the "reverse scoops" in the new Shelby hood. I am wondering if adding a functional scoop isn't going to make the instability worse if we can't get the air back out. In the case of the hood that LM posted here, if they took that same design, moved it back a little and turned the scoop design 180 degrees, it just might be the thing we're looking for. That is also what ( other than the obvious "look" ) makes the hood that 05'_Bulitte posted so spiffy. It is going to get air out of the engine compartment, and serve two purposes. Make the compartment cooler, plus remove the pressure build up.
Old May 13, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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yup Yup Yup...

Let me clarify myself... when I state vents toward the rear of the hood, I didn't exactly mean at the cowl! But rather 6" to 12" in front of it.

The further back you exit the air, the more air you allow to flow across the engine block and the greater heat dissapation you effect.

If you exit the air in the first 2 foot of hood, your not going to flow any air through the main body of the engine compartment.

I have an idea... just take the hood and fenders OFF.. and turn it into a Hot Rod! [sm=forgetit.gif] - Just kidding.
Old May 13, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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ORIGINAL: LMPerformance

new picture of the hood








[IMG]local://upfiles/2224/1E95BFB66DCD44C3B8DFB27B9061A376.jpg[/IMG]

OK.. I want that hood.. but I have a few questions..

1) how long is that deal going to last? I'm hurting for moeny now.. but I do want it
2) if its cramming in air like mad how good will it vent back out
3) I dont see any where to put the winshield nozels(sp) to spray the water

--thanks
Yes, all good questions, I'd like answers for too! Also, will LM offer this hood painted with Factory Ford colors? If so, the final cost please?
I'm very interested in this hood, or the Black King Cobra hood that is pictured above.

Dave...
Old May 13, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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I can't believe NO ONE noticed the front fascia on that car. IT'S THE SAME ONE FROM THE CONCEPT MUSTANG GT!! I want THAT![:-]
Old May 13, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Hoods do not come pre-painted as they need to be pre-fit to your car then painted.

Also if they were painted there would be a really good chance it would get scratched in shippping on truck freight


On another note, If we make that black hood would anyone buy it ?

We are thinking of developing a similar hood with larger openings and wider, taller runners.
Old May 13, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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I would be interested in a hood similar to the black one, especially if it was priced similar to the California Dream hood.



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