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here's a little more info about amsoil using a pyramid scheme to sell their products and talk about how ridiculous their claims are:
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...-amsoil-63563/
even better study:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/amsoil.html
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...-amsoil-63563/
even better study:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/amsoil.html
I am done Androz. I am not sure what part of my experience you are having difficulty with. It was very clear cut.
You have made several statements that are 100% incorrect and I have personally experienced the opposite.
You stated that a dealer cannot deny warranty work unless they prove the oil is to blame? Wrong. I experienced it first hand. The lawyer above mentioned many legal actions based upon similar circumstances.
Get YOUR facts right as my experience...and whether you choose to believe it our not...actually occurred. Based upon Westlaw's database of similar actions...many other have too. Continuing to spread the useless impact of the Magnuson Moss Act with regard to these cases clearly indicates you have no experience in these matters. Amsoil used to claim that under the MMA, auto buyers were entitled to free proprietary oil (or ATF)...but they dropped that claim.
If you REALLY must know, DC denied my warranty claim because the tranny did not contain DC's ATF+4. At that time, DC had not licensed the proprietary additive package. Now they have to Mobil and Valvoline...but at the time of the incident...only DC made the ATF.
Regardless what you may think...the dealer will hold your vehicle until full payment is received. There is no "plan B". I was faced with paying...or walking. I initially tried pursuing it with an attorney, but realized that it would consume too much time to recoup my $3500...maybe that is Amsoil's plan. My attorney (a close friend) recommended I just chalk it up to a life lesson and move on with life. So I did. I dont cruise boards looking to bash Amsoil, however, when I see the sleazy marketing and false claims pop out it makes my skin crawl and I felt compelled to share my experience with he forum members.
Again, this thread typifies how Amsoil supporters bash other non users. It has become essentially cult-like.
Now...I really am done...
Spend some time Googling the keywords I mentioned above...you will see I am far from alone.
You have made several statements that are 100% incorrect and I have personally experienced the opposite.
You stated that a dealer cannot deny warranty work unless they prove the oil is to blame? Wrong. I experienced it first hand. The lawyer above mentioned many legal actions based upon similar circumstances.
Get YOUR facts right as my experience...and whether you choose to believe it our not...actually occurred. Based upon Westlaw's database of similar actions...many other have too. Continuing to spread the useless impact of the Magnuson Moss Act with regard to these cases clearly indicates you have no experience in these matters. Amsoil used to claim that under the MMA, auto buyers were entitled to free proprietary oil (or ATF)...but they dropped that claim.
If you REALLY must know, DC denied my warranty claim because the tranny did not contain DC's ATF+4. At that time, DC had not licensed the proprietary additive package. Now they have to Mobil and Valvoline...but at the time of the incident...only DC made the ATF.
Regardless what you may think...the dealer will hold your vehicle until full payment is received. There is no "plan B". I was faced with paying...or walking. I initially tried pursuing it with an attorney, but realized that it would consume too much time to recoup my $3500...maybe that is Amsoil's plan. My attorney (a close friend) recommended I just chalk it up to a life lesson and move on with life. So I did. I dont cruise boards looking to bash Amsoil, however, when I see the sleazy marketing and false claims pop out it makes my skin crawl and I felt compelled to share my experience with he forum members.
Again, this thread typifies how Amsoil supporters bash other non users. It has become essentially cult-like.
Now...I really am done...
Spend some time Googling the keywords I mentioned above...you will see I am far from alone.
If Ford went to 5W-20 to help with CAFE standards compliance then why would they still recommend 5W-30 for the V6 powered mustang? It's right there in the manual.
Incidentally, the manual states this:
To me that sends a strong message that you should use 5W-20 or you are risking warranty coverage.
Incidentally, the manual states this:
To protect your engine’s warranty use Motorcraft SAE 5W-20 or an
equivalent 5W-20 oil meeting Ford specification WSS-M2C930-A. SAE
5W-20 oil provides optimum fuel economy and durability
performance meeting all requirements for your vehicle’s engine.
equivalent 5W-20 oil meeting Ford specification WSS-M2C930-A. SAE
5W-20 oil provides optimum fuel economy and durability
performance meeting all requirements for your vehicle’s engine.
You guys are in for an argument anytime you get into it with Andrew. The guy does his homework for sure. This is what I can tell you: Fact - I've owned over two dozen cars since I was 15 yrs. old. Fact - The best oil made when I was 15 was Mobil 1. Fact - I've used Mobil 1 ever since in all of my cars with excellent results. Fact - I've NEVER gone out to a 12k mile change interval with my oil looking like this until i switched to Amsoil signature series 0W-30 and Amsoil synthetic EaO oil filter. I know this doesn't mean much but that is beautiful looking oil for having 12k miles on it. I've never seen better! You can jump on over to bobistheoilguy.com forums and check out theirUOA's on Amsoil. It's great stuff.
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ORIGINAL: Riptide
I was talking about the fully synthetic motorcraft, not the blend. Did you test the blend or the fully synth?
ORIGINAL: Androdz2
Motorcraft was loosing viscocity and resulting in massive tear and wear.
Motorcraft was loosing viscocity and resulting in massive tear and wear.
Andrew


