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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JayRolla
If I wanted to build that motor I would get the gnx because it was built with the turbocharger in mind and has low compression and all the parts already installed. Thats just my opinion.

The v6 I was in was pretty slow. I asked him so when you going to hit the gas and he was like I have been. I couldnt even tell when he went WOT, thats how low the tq was.

If you want a car that is quick out of the box and can be built for a lot more than get the GT.

If you want a slow v6 untill you have the thousands of dollors to supercharge it then get the v6.
IIRC, they both use a 9.3:1 CR. also you can easily get away with less then 3 grand on a blower for ~350 rwhp on a split port, or if your smart enough to build your own turbo kit you can easily get 400 rwhp for 3 grand. not really anymore then a GT. and im not arguing with you over the V8 thing, im arguing the get a GT, 4V FTW

"for every sixer Mustang that is worth a crap, there is 100,000 more V8 mustangs that will destroy it"

and thats actually a sad truth, no one builds V-6 cars, but in reality the parts for them are slotted right between a 5.0 and 4.6 cost wise there are about 15 really BUILT v6 cars out there over 500 HP, no one has even reached the limits of the stock block or crank in these motors, (fords motor is actually better then buicks, they used an on-center block and aluminum heads, and they dont split at ~450 hp liek the 5.0s)

theres lots of factors, what is a "fast" car? what is a "daily driver" car, whats a "reliable" car. cause in some cases its not always go V-8, i know what i wanted to build, a blown and cammed car, i wanted ~400-420 RWHP, with the same for torque, i want it to be a DD if it has to be, and be reliable, so thats what convinced me to start my build, i dont need 700 rwhp for the street. well cams for a 4.6 are upward of a grand, for that price i can do heads and a cam in my car, and a m112 kit for $2800, which is cheaper then a procharger or I/C vortech for a GT. i should be at my goal for less then 10k, motor, blower, detroit (yes im keeping the 7.5) shift kit, tranny cooler, maybe a stall... if i were to go v8, it would be either a termy or id do almost anything for an azure blue mach :drool:

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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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Most important factor when getting a mustang: ALWAYS buy the GT.
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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Most important factor when getting a mustang: ALWAYS buy the cobra.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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Wow there are quite a few V8 owners who still walk hunched over dragging their knuckles on the ground. So sad.
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Darkcrime
dude, you are one funny guy. Ford isn't building v6 mustangs and saying "oh my god, they are still slower than an older 5.0", they are building them as the base model.

You must be one of those guys that loses to a 350z, then says "it's still a v6". If the guy wants a v6, let him get one. Not everyone want's just power out of a car. To be honest, it'd be cool to have a 4cyl or a 6cyl and say I beat a v8, but that's just me
What? I couldn't understand any part of that first paragraph.
You must be one of those Full of Isht guys who drives a 4cyl Honda and goes on HondaNet and brags about how he took out a V8 mustang in his little POS hatchback when he knows he can't hold his own against 90 percent of the vehicles on the road.

Or your one of those V6 mustang guys who regrets buying a sixxer every day of his life and has found no purpose in life but to defend the POS he wasted 10,000 + on.

Which is it?

If he doesn't want power out of the car, then why did he say "itd be nice to have the GT for the 300+ HP" on his first post? Theres hope in the original poster, he's not some V6 mustang with a teddy bear on the back window queer, I can tell from his posts that he's going to be one of the people that will really regret buying a V6..i'm trying to save him the humiliation and the anger that he would feel the morning after buying the car..it's a horrible feeling when you buy a new car and step outside the next morning and your like "man, you know, i really wish i would of gotten something with a bigger engine"

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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jbauer
A grand national is turbo charged 6, and for realz, its a grand national..come on, its not even NEAR the same league as a Ford V6.

For every sixer Mustang that is worth a crap, there is 100,000 more V8 mustangs that will destroy it. The V8 is the ONLY source of TRUE power on a mustang..sure, go ahead and send me all the youtube videos you want, but when isht hits the fan its V8 or nothing. A ford v8 will always be better then any ford v6..or pretty much almost any v6 for that matter. Me personally, i'd rather drive a 200HP 5.0 Fox then a 300HP + 350z, no matter how much faster the Z may be, the V8 is still a v8 and the 6 is still a 6..i've driven 6cyl cars with more horse power than some 8s and they still don't hit the spot right for me..theres a certain feeling the V8 has. In your case, the 8 is MUCH faster then the 6..even 20 years later they STILL can't build a v6 in a mustang that can beat the P.O.S 5.0so slow with a 5spd. Heck, go buy a foxbody, you can find a real nice one for like 4 grand..it's better than a 2010 V6 any day of the week.
You contradict yourself. You say the mustang V6(low-mid 15sec car) is slow, but you'd rather own a 5.0 slow V8 (high 14-low 15 sec car) over a V6 350Z(high 13-low 14sec car)? I can understand that from a mustang enthusiast standpoint, but you must be the stupidest person in the world if you would rather own a $4k car over a $28k car, not to even mention the handling and performance stock/modding-potential differences, etc.

And from your words, I can educatively guess you would rather own a 5.0 over a Porsche 911 H6 or 911 H6 turbo . It is still a 6 cylinder and just doesn't have that V8 feel
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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Yes.. thats exactly correct.
And not because I'm a mustang enthusiast, i just don't drive imports.. I already did that scene, and a porsche has got to be the most unreliable thing on the road, just like every other vehicle created by VAG corporation.

gotta understand, EVEN STOCK, the 25 year old mustang is FASTER than a NEW v6 that cost SIX TIMES more.

I would rather drive a 4000 dollar mustang v8 then drive a 24,000 dollar Z.. because the 4000 dollar Fox with 300 ft/lb would dESTROY that piece of crap 350z in under a few thousand dollars. I can find a 347 Stroker for cheap, heck why stop there, i'll get a 351, 427, whatever i want..the skys the limit. I see those little turd rollers at the track, 20,000 dollars for a USED car that runs SLOWER then a 00 mustang, rediculous. I smoke 350zs left and right unelss they are the real new models, and my car cost LESS than HALF of theirs and its like 3 years years older. heck most of the BMWs i meet on the highway can't stand a chance. Only the popular ones are worth a crap, lb for lb, model year for model year i can take out a good percentage of BMWs.

Look, if the guy likes imports, all power to him. Everyone is diffrent thats what makes this interesting..but V6 mustangs are where i draw the line.

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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jbauer
What? I couldn't understand any part of that first paragraph.
You must be one of those Full of Isht guys who drives a 4cyl Honda and goes on HondaNet and brags about how he took out a V8 mustang in his little POS hatchback when he knows he can't hold his own against 90 percent of the vehicles on the road.

Or your one of those V6 mustang guys who regrets buying a sixxer every day of his life and has found no purpose in life but to defend the POS he wasted 10,000 + on.

Which is it?

If he doesn't want power out of the car, then why did he say "itd be nice to have the GT for the 300+ HP" on his first post? Theres hope in the original poster, he's not some V6 mustang with a teddy bear on the back window queer, I can tell from his posts that he's going to be one of the people that will really regret buying a V6..i'm trying to save him the humiliation and the anger that he would feel the morning after buying the car..it's a horrible feeling when you buy a new car and step outside the next morning and your like "man, you know, i really wish i would of gotten something with a bigger engine"

Don't even talk about slow with mustang gt's. They are almost 10 years now behind the performance of the LS1 f-bodies(98-02). You know, the cars that run the 1/4 stock in the high 12's to low 13s. The mustang gt now is a mid-high 13sec car which is pathetic compared to other V8's out there. The SRT-8 charger runs 13 flat stock, the new camaro will be running 12's stock, the SRT-8 challenger is running high 12s, and the 4000lb G8 GT can run mid 13s stock through an auto transmission. Hell, even the challenger r/t can run mid-high 13's stock, eve some dipping in the low 13s. So my question to you is why drive a slow V8 mustang gt if your going to drive a V8? And if you're answer is modding potential, then stfu before you answer because when my 6 is turbocharged it will be running 11's on stock internals and be my daily driver. So take that into consideration before you comment anymore.
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jbauer
Yes.. thats exactly correct.
And not because I'm a mustang enthusiast, i just don't drive imports.. I already did that scene, and a porsche has got to be the most unreliable thing on the road, just like every other vehicle created by VAG corporation.

gotta understand, EVEN STOCK, the 25 year old mustang is FASTER than a NEW v6 that cost SIX TIMES more.

I would rather drive a 4000 dollar mustang v8 then drive a 24,000 dollar Z.. because the 4000 dollar Fox with 300 ft/lb would dESTROY that piece of crap 350z in under a few thousand dollars. I can find a 347 Stroker for cheap, heck why stop there, i'll get a 351, 427, whatever i want..the skys the limit. I see those little turd rollers at the track, 20,000 dollars for a USED car that runs SLOWER then a 00 mustang, rediculous. I smoke 350zs left and right unelss they are the real new models, and my car cost LESS than HALF of theirs and its like 3 years years older. heck most of the BMWs i meet on the highway can't stand a chance. Only the popular ones are worth a crap, lb for lb, model year for model year i can take out a good percentage of BMWs.

Look, if the guy likes imports, all power to him. Everyone is diffrent thats what makes this interesting..but V6 mustangs are where i draw the line.
Your right that the dollar for acceleration performance on BMW's and 350z's and other luxury cars aren't amazing. That's why if you are going to spend over $40k for a straight ling performance car you should only be looking at Vettes, vipers, and other cars of that nature. Not bmws or mercedez (although used amg mercedez are fairly cheap and have great performance and modding potential).
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Why don't you guys quit your bashing already?

Yea a GT is faster than a V6, so what? It SHOULD be faster, right?

But still,, buy a V6 and you might regret you didn't buy a GT..

.. buy a GT and you might eventually regret you didn't buy a Mach1/Cobra

..buy a Mach1/Cobra and you will STILL eventually get used to the stock power and want more..

Like the saying goes "Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?"



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