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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 04:02 PM
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hope that link works it has corey harris article on his car in the king of the street competition. he has a very streetable 980odd rwhp compound boost nitrous setup...

furthermore, we can draw the lines in lots of places. some would say buidling a fake cobra is much less economical and efficient then just starting with one, ohers probably think me forging my 01 and supercharing it is dumb because i could have just bought an 03-04. perhaps anyone with a high hp 2v just shoulda bought a 4v because its more efficient at getting the power....and hey maybe we just all should have bought corvettes you know cuz those guys are saying their the most bang for the buck and are even more efficient making the power

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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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First of all that article means just about nothing. Everybody there (according to them) has a perfectly street 1000hp car. What they have is dyno queens, that arn't driven and w/o a sheet and more info we have no idea what kind of power it really makes. I can tell you that a 10.9 et with 1000hp is absolutely pathetic. People lie about dyno numbers... I dont know why they do, but they do... especially in those (imo retarded) fast and furious type "competitions" where they collect trophies like pee-wee baseball. Put it this way, if compound roots/turbo is so great, then how come the only people with it are 03/03 cobra owners with bolt on systems from hellion, because it can be sold as a kit, its easy to bolt on and you tell them they dont have to lose their s/c or change intakes, I mean (no offense here) but if you tell a layman he you can have a s/c and twin turbo charged engine, yes of course they are going to "wow, I want that"... not only has hellion convinced people that compound is amazing (which ok there is some debate, at least theoretically) but they also tell people that their kit is better because it uses the stock manifolds... its called advertisement and some how it works.

Just like 2.6 and 2.8 Kbs... why would you even consider it when the 3.4 whipple has been out for years and now they even a 4.0
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Fobra
First of all that article means just about nothing. Everybody there (according to them) has a perfectly street 1000hp car. What they have is dyno queens, that arn't driven and w/o a sheet and more info we have no idea what kind of power it really makes. I can tell you that a 10.9 et with 1000hp is absolutely pathetic. People lie about dyno numbers... I dont know why they do, but they do... especially in those (imo retarded) fast and furious type "competitions" where they collect trophies like pee-wee baseball. Put it this way, if compound roots/turbo is so great, then how come the only people with it are 03/03 cobra owners with bolt on systems from hellion, because it can be sold as a kit, its easy to bolt on and you tell them they dont have to lose their s/c or change intakes, I mean (no offense here) but if you tell a layman he you can have a s/c and twin turbo charged engine, yes of course they are going to "wow, I want that"... not only has hellion convinced people that compound is amazing (which ok there is some debate, at least theoretically) but they also tell people that their kit is better because it uses the stock manifolds... its called advertisement and some how it works.

Just like 2.6 and 2.8 Kbs... why would you even consider it when the 3.4 whipple has been out for years and now they even a 4.0
Troof.... Compound boost is a marketing strategy so your car can have the "wow" factor BUT in all reality, a regular turbo setup is going to be MILES ahead of a compound boost set up.
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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I wrapped my turbo exhaust with fiberglass header wrap today. Not the most fun thing to do on short jack stands in your driveway with tiny sharp stones as your head rest.
My clutch was acting up, turns out the firewall adjuster was like 5 threads backed out from the firewall and jiggling so I re drilled it and it's mint.
Was hoping to get the new boost overlay in and the WOT box from N2MB today but I guess it'll be saturday.











New pic of the engine bay.

Old Feb 28, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Proof that your better off without the supercharger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ah4V...eature=related


Now, just keep in mind when you watch that these turbos had the higher a/r option because of being used in a "compound" setup. If they had picked turbos correctly they could have had that torque come in almost 1k rpm sooner. However, even still, it made more power, it made almost the same torque, just about 300-400 rpm later and from 4k on up straight up raped the compound setup. Also, as you can see... there is nothing being "compounded", only restricted and that restriction would be way worse when they tried to make a power goal that higher, as you can tell since they removed the s/c. If there was a compounding going, then it would have made less power on the same boost.

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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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Fobra, we already told him that compound will get it's *** handed to it by a simple turbo set up. I don't think he's going to listen, lol... Nor should he, as it's his car and he can do whatever the hell he wants with it, BUT, I for see a blown engine and/or him not even coming close to his "wanted" power levels, on pump gas, lol...
Old Feb 28, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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I understand that, and you know I support him really. Im not posting to talk trash to him. Like I said, I think his DIY efforts are AWESOME... most people dont have the guts to do what he did. However, I am posting just to clear up mis-understandings (esp. for re-res in the street/strip section). A lot of people take this stuff personally. I dont know why. I just post factual information with the hopes that out our board will have LEVEL HEADED and ACCURATE discussion of topics (at least those that I know about), with no fan-boy BS. Too many forums are just fan-boy crap and then they get bad tech reputations and disappointed owners. As stated before... he doesnt need to change anything, just because it would be better. While that would make sense IMO, it might not be what he wants. He might want to have the unique bragging right, which is fine by me. I just disagree with the uniqueness argument when it is blatantly illogical given your means.

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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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Now, if you want a true laggless system, look into soundperformance and boost logic SEQUENTIAL twin turbo systems. Two turbos, run in series. Still no compounding, but these systems work. The only problem with them is that they only make sense on a small displacement motor. So, a 4.6 would probably be the largest engine that such a system would make sense on .... but Im still looking into what it might do on a 400 CI+.
Old Feb 28, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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Eff ALL of that ****! Wire up a window switch, and spray the bitch with a 75-100 shot, till you hit at least 10lbs, and let the turbos take over from there. Even in a sequential kit, the smaller turbo, is still limiting the big one, fyi...

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