Its obvious that there are some issues with some orders and it appears the members are taking what actions they can to rectify the situation. I sugguest you all do what you think is best. If you have some new information and hear from Doug or receive you order please PM a mod and we can visit the matter again. We are not going to get anywhere right now just treading water which is what this thread has turned into.

We wont move the thread to OT either since it would be worthless there for what goes on in that section. We are discussing some other options also. Do no make a new thread about this being closed or just to rehash what has been stated already. Thanks for your understanding and like I said do what you think you need to recover your money or continue to wait it out.